Makin your own intra-shake

Hey guys, just wondering, how would you mix your own intra-shake using raw supplements! Thinkin of vitargo and arginine and bcaa's. Would that suffice as a replacement for a product like cytomaize? And what quanties and how would you mix them for it to be effective?

i would make a cheap one using WMS and Dextrose,creatine,bcaa and something like crea - pump,that will give u fast and slow digesting carbs to fuel your work out and with the creatine it will help keep the muscle nice and full and the bcaa's will help u recover... the crea-pump will give u a nice added boost...if u dont wanna use the crea-pump use an eca pre work out... i would rather keep your intra shake to 20-30g carbs and have a proper pre work out meal like oats and raisins and then 10g dextrose and 10g wms

You shouldn't take carbs pre or intra workout as they will spike your insulin and negate the growth hormone release caused by intense training.

Besides, unless you're low carbing you'll have a ton of available glucose supplied by your muscle and liver glycogen.

sorry to say this but that is silly idea as then if no food is to be ingested before a work out or during a work out then where are u going to get energy from? that means u(in simple terms) saying that training should be done first thing in the morning with no food in u for best result? what about the part where carbs are nessesary for muscle contraction to be at maximum? the only time you shouldnt have carbs pre work out is during a keto diet phase where no carbs are taken in at all.... there are 2 prep coaches i know that recommend carbs pre cardio and during training...

Errr, ok....Thanks for the help. DJ, The reason I was thinking of vitargo and arginine is cos thats what LSJ stocks. So in theory I can get vitargo, dextrose and bcaa plus creatine from him, so will that suffice? and I am assuming you would recommend 20g of vitargo, 5g creatine? Whats your recommendation on the dextrose and bcaa? And what if i substitute the bcaa for the amino stack? Oh, and I dont wanna use crea-pump so can I add the arginine? and at what dose?

if are using the vitargo then no need for the dexrose as the vitargo exits the stomach as fast as WMS and gives u the insulin spike like Dextrose does.u should aim for 5g of carbs per 10mins training. so if u are training for 40-50mins then u need 20-25g carbs,so if its a 80% carb drink u will need 25-30g of vitargo. 5g of creatine to the vitargo if it doesnt have already and 5g to your post work out dextrose shake.bcaa i would add to your vitargo at 10g.

so intra work out shake should look like this :

25-30g of vitargo
10g bcaa's
5g creatine
5g arganine
5g glutamine

post work out shake
whey protein
5-10g creatine
5-10g glutamine
and dextrose or vitargo.
i havent put in values for the dextrose and whey as it is all person specific and dont wanna give a random number.

Ahhh, Thank you so much DJ...Much appreciated!

DJ wrote:

sorry to say this but that is silly idea as then if no food is to be ingested before a work out or during a work out then where are u going to get energy from?

Your liver and muscle glycogen (your TWO DAY supply of stored energy (glucose), the energy you have to burn through when starting a ketogenic diet).

DJ wrote:

that means u(in simple terms) saying that training should be done first thing in the morning with no food in u for best result? what about the part where carbs are nessesary for muscle contraction to be at maximum?

I am saying you should wait for at least 2 hours after a meal before you train, so as to allow your circulating insulin levels time to drop, so they won't affect growth hormone release.

I'm not against having whey or BCAA's before training, to prevent catabolism.

Intra workout nutrition is just the lastest supplement company scam.

i dont think its a case of being a supplement gimmick,u can make your own shake to fuel your work out,i am not saying have 50g of carbs etc during the work out,20g is just enough to fuel u for that time period to make your work out that more intense... giving u the fuel to push heavier and harder...

Some might disagree but I have to eat carbs before I train, around an 45 minutes to an hour, I normally eat mash at this point with steak. if I don't i'm weak and can't train.