Cortisol blockers...

how many of u guys would be interested in purchasing cortisol blockers to use post cycle to prevent muscle wasting and fat gain? it will also be very effective in reducing stress levels and over training symptoms, i am just looking into it,it will be an OTC product so it will be 100% safe...

Yup im interested coz after this bulking cycle of mine thats coming up might need to block the cortisol.

this is all still in the pipeline so i am just seeing how many people would be interested in them...

would be interested yes

very interested Dj.
any chance you could reveal what the product is?

Count me in Brutha!

Phosphatidyl Serine aka (PS) has been shown to significantly reduce (suppress) the destructive hormone cortizone. Unlike the pharmaceutical drug Aminoglutamide that is a cortizol blocker, preventing the body from manufacturing significant levels of cortizone which in turn is very dangerous. PS is perfectly safe and has many other interesting benefits on brain function. It is an expensive compound to use and its not as yet offered in the correct dosage for cortizol suppressing purposes...

direct quote from doctari

"Have used this on and off the last 12+ months. It is also known as one of the "smart drug" compounds - it assists in preventing memory loss and some even propose it to be an alternative treatment to Alzheimers. The dosages for preventing memory loss, ranges from 150-250mg per day, but it is a very effective cortisol suppressor at dosages of 800mg per day. At such high dosages, it is preferred not to be used longer than 4-6 weeks at a time - it's unsafe to permanently try and suppress cortisol levels. I always incorporate it as a standard in my PCT protocols at 800mg p day x 4 weeks."

From another site.
In addition to the effect on memory, phosphatidylserine reduces circulating levels of the stress hormone cortisol. In one study, healthy men were given 800 mg phosphatidylserine for 10 days and the release of cortisol and ACTH in response to physical exercise was blunted, suggesting that phosphatidylserine counteracted the stress-induced activation of the hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis [11]. In another study, IV administration of BC-PS was compared with placebo, and it blunted the ACTH and cortisol response to bicycle ergometer exercise [12]. Finally, a double-blind cross-over study on 11 male subjects undergoing intensive weight training for two weeks found that 800 mg of S-PS decreased post-exercise cortisol levels and reduced the muscle soreness and psychological depression associated with overtraining [13]. This indirectly indicates that phosphatidylserine administration could improve athletic performance by reducing the detrimental effects associated with overtraining.

Related to the effect on cortisol is the effect phosphatidylserine has on stress and depression. One study was done in young adults with neuroticism scores above the median, in which 300 mg of phosphatidylserine was administered for one month and associated with less feelings of stress and an overall better mood [14]. A study in elderly women with major depressive disorders found only 200 mg daily of phosphatidylserine to cause a significant improvement in depressive symptamology [15]. Phosphatidylserine also has a potent anti-stress effect in animal models – in rats, it prevented restraint-induced hyperthermia and decreased incidence of gastric ulcers from restraint-plus-cold treatment [16].

www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jul2004_report_cortisol_02.htm

Im in

Me too.

VOTE! defnitely count me in!

I'm in.
What ball park price are you looking at?

+/- R600 for 60 x 400mg caps... the solal version for 30x100mg tabs for R240 so u can see its going to be alot cheaper...

Sounds good DJ...
Is there such a thing as cortisol rebound?
Whats your opinion on using it in the last few weeks of cycle, should help make some extra gains in that time frame?

well as doctari said use it during pct,when u are on cycle u need to up the calories to grow,its when u come off the cycle and drop the calories a bit and try and train at the same intensity that over training happens and the cortisol levels are going to be high... i am not to sure the cortisol rebound... will try and find out about it...i do think that when u are contest dieting it will be essential as there is quite a lot of cardio,reduced calories and increased stress... if dieting for 12 weeks,going on for 4 weeks,taking 2 weeks off and then back on for the last 6 weeks of the most stress full time would be the best for maintaining muscle... PS + 3000mg vitamin c a day and 10g glutamine pre and post work out will be very effective in controlling muscle wasting....

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Sounds good. Count me in

Cissus Quadlangularis claims it's cortisol blocking effects can cause muscle gain and help joints.

Does the same count for this compound?

Else I'm in.

I am in.

ok guys,stock will be in next week, it will cost R650 for 60x400mg corti-tech caps. and it will include postage to you...i will post up a whole write up on the stuff just now...

Any feedback on this?

Got me some for my next cycle. 500mg version 60 caps. R563 postage included. Will 1000mg during PCT be overkill?