MUSCLE SCIENCE RIPPED HARDCORE ????? ANY COMMENTS

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02 May 2009 11:51 #13108 by trevorhattingh
thinking of using ripped hardcore to lose weight and gain lean muscle!

is this the right supplement to use for that?:unsure:

i dont train much using weights as i train in mma.

i DONT want to gain mass just lean muscle as i need to lose 7kgs but also want get more muscle.

lemme know what you guys think

thanks

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02 May 2009 12:12 #13110 by trevorhattingh
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oh and i am using MS supreme whey,would it be if benefit to use it with ripped hardcore?

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04 May 2009 10:15 #13156 by Mr_SA
Ripped Worked for me, but not the ripped hardcore... to lose weight.
The problem is that you are going to lose muslce mass with fatburners.

I think, keep your Glutamine levels high, to try counter act the muscle loss a bit.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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04 May 2009 10:32 #13160 by acidkidsa
Ripped hardcore has creatine in it , so it should help for the loss of muscle .

I have been using it for 4 weeks. Bf was 19 I am now 16. (with proper diet)

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04 May 2009 12:09 #13163 by trevorhattingh
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cool, but is it the right thing if im 90% training in mixed martial arts?

heard that it will up my endurance and recovery. but will i still build more muscle if im not lifting weights or will i put on mass, like fat or anything?, i dont want put on weight besides for the extra weight from muscle mass

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04 May 2009 13:37 #13173 by ogre
Hey but if you are in mixed martial arts get some grenade ,it will give you a huge energy boost and get you thermogenic.

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04 May 2009 18:49 #13200 by trevorhattingh
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trying to cut carbs so grenade not an option for tho, although it is a decent product for endurance

im trying to lose weight fast whilst building some muscle.

i eat properly (i think), low carbs, more protein, water and essential fats

need to lose 7kgs and of fat and put on some more muscle.

will creatine help me for this goal or will it just put on mass rather than LEAN MUSCLE. DO I NEED TO LIFT WEIGHTS OR IS ANAEROBIC EXERCISES ENOUGH ie boxing/grappling?

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04 May 2009 21:27 #13206 by Empire
what does your diet look like,give us a full break down and also your stats,weight age,height,training program and for how long u train a day.

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05 May 2009 12:23 #13234 by trevorhattingh
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Im 21, 1.76m and 97kg

A normal days eating (i dont really have an eating plan as such)

I take biogen phenadrine 3 times a day(6caps in total)(i dont like this product)

breakfast 7 30am
3 eggs
1 slice low gi toast with ff cottage cheese

10.00am
30g protein shake(MS whey supreme)

lunch 12 30
200g chicken beast in a salad

or

x trim lean steak cut up into a salad

i try to vary lunch( get tired of salads)

15 00
30g protein shake(MS whey supreme)

18 30
chicken,steak or fish with some veggies ie tomatoes, carrots, cucumber, corn

21 30
40 protein shake(MS whey supreme)

need to get to 90 kgs, already lost 10kgs was weighing 107kgs

train 3-4 times a week for about 1h30min per day. 90% MMA and odd day of lifting some weights

i hope this helps a bit

with this will supplementing with ripped hardcore make me put on mass? i want to gain lean muscle and lose weight simultaneously

thanks

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05 May 2009 12:37 #13235 by Empire
ok well u are severly under eating and have caused your metabolism to crash...i bet u dont take a dump all that often these days with the lack of food intake. u need to realise that carbs are not the devil and u need to start lifting weights... carbs are able to be burned up so if u are training u will be able to burn those carbs... u can email me for more advice and a proper eating plan but i do charge for these diets,it will be customed to your body though and there will be an increase in food thats for sure.u only have 1 carb meal in a day which is not good.i can put u on a keto diet which will help drop the body fat but not really get a lean gain...

to gain mass u need to eat more,to get ripped u need to eat less...u need to decide what u want to do first,get ripped and then get a bit more size,or build size...

let me know

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05 May 2009 12:53 #13236 by LSJ
trevorhattingh

What martial arts are you into?

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05 May 2009 12:56 #13237 by North_Boy1
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LSJ,
Mixed martial arts - he moers you everywhere.

If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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05 May 2009 13:12 #13238 by acidkidsa
wiki wiki

Never fraternize with them as equals, never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you, they will destroy you.

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05 May 2009 13:44 #13239 by LSJ
Sounds like someone to know in wrong place ;)

Reason I'm asking is cause I was also into mixed arts and just a bit lighter than you (85kg).

Gymed 5 days of the week, trained 2 hours 4 days martial arts - comps on Sat and somehow managed to play rugby as well. Ate like 5 pigs - big ones!!

What do you want to achieve? Stronger? Faster? You know there is a tradeoff between them?

What DJ said is true - ur diet is not up there at all.

Just to give an idea - On a normal day I would work trough
-3 servings of whey protein
-15 eggs
-3 big helpings of fruit/salad
-cottage cheese/joghurt
-1/3 full grain seed loaf of bread
-3 chicken breasts
-200/300gram of red meat
-6 tins of tuna

This is by no means a supr diet but point I'm tryng to make is that compare this to urs and take into account I'm 10kg lighter than you.

You should really look at your diet. But again - Why? you aiming for spec weight class?

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05 May 2009 14:16 #13241 by acidkidsa
Found your profile on the net. It will be easy to loose the amount you want on a proper diet and training.

Ms ripped hardcore should help as well.

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05 May 2009 15:09 #13251 by Lesa
well i do a lot of boxing and grappling training. Grappling alone WILL make you stronger.Boxing alone WILL make you faster and leaner. But my mate jerremy is top rank at MMA in sa at the moment and he does a LOT of power lifting now. squats deadlifts heavy benches .... dude but seriously GET ON JUICE. if you doing mma in sa you got fuk all to worry about testing. wanna lose weight and keep size? ok diet is the most important but you should be really wacking clen.

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05 May 2009 15:14 #13253 by Empire
Lesa wrote:

well i do a lot of boxing and grappling training. Grappling alone WILL make you stronger.Boxing alone WILL make you faster and leaner. But my mate jerremy is top rank at MMA in sa at the moment and he does a LOT of power lifting now. squats deadlifts heavy benches .... dude but seriously GET ON JUICE. if you doing mma in sa you got fuk all to worry about testing. wanna lose weight and keep size? ok diet is the most important but you should be really wacking clen.


bro some people want to keep their natural status for a long time,rather focus on the diet and training first of all and then once u have really gotten what u want then look at juice...

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05 May 2009 22:20 #13267 by Novice!
And won't clen make his training even harder cause of the cardiovascular sides...?

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06 May 2009 00:20 #13268 by Lesa
djeasye wrote:

Lesa wrote:

well i do a lot of boxing and grappling training. Grappling alone WILL make you stronger.Boxing alone WILL make you faster and leaner. But my mate jerremy is top rank at MMA in sa at the moment and he does a LOT of power lifting now. squats deadlifts heavy benches .... dude but seriously GET ON JUICE. if you doing mma in sa you got fuk all to worry about testing. wanna lose weight and keep size? ok diet is the most important but you should be really wacking clen.


bro some people want to keep their natural status for a long time,rather focus on the diet and training first of all and then once u have really gotten what u want then look at juice...


you prolly right all im saying the SA MMA fighters are all on juice, they dont get tested full stop. If you doing MMA on a comeptitive level i doubt you will go far without juice. @ Novice the clen cardio sides vary. I have never had cramps or lowered cardio performance on it.. i suppose if you try it wont hurt you. time your skipping bag work and pad work on clen and off clen and if it does make you less fit then dont use it.

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06 May 2009 08:05 #13271 by acidkidsa
Take some potassium tabs for the cramps.

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