pre-workout

Hey guys.. Im gona use cycle1 in about 2 weeks. Do you think i should use a pre-workout, or is it a wast? And if you answer is "yes" what do you recommend?

With previous cycles i did use pre-workouts, just want 2 know what your opinion is about it.

Thanks

o moer.

What is your diet like...before we get to pre and post workout?

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Bro I gym in the mornings at 5 am...I get up at 04H30 and have my cup of cooked oats with a table spoon peanut butter and 2 scoops 100% whey protein...I also take my daily supplements...Multi vitamins,omega 3 & 6 oils caps,Creatine x4 Esthers/monohydrate and I take 1 serving Evox 3DT...o and if i'm using any orals i take them too....

Evox 3DT/Jack 3D is a good pre workout drink.....

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote: ....
Evox 3DT/Jack 3D is a good pre workout drink.....

No its crap!

jackrabbit1 wrote:

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote: ....
Evox 3DT/Jack 3D is a good pre workout drink.....

No its crap!

Why do u say that?It works for me...nice pumps during workout...Do you have something better???

Jack3d, C4, Craze, SuperPump etc all contain a load of caffeine basically along wiht other substances that give you that buzz and keep you focused.

If you are someone that takes these kind of stims often...you will begin to lose the effect. If you only take it on days when you are feeling a little miffed before a hard gym session then the boost will stay longer.

There is nothing wrong with these pre-workout stim drinks. They work for a lot of people. If you are HARDCORE and your body adapts quickly then you will have to use something stronger...

SV wrote: o moer.

What is your diet like...before we get to pre and post workout?

Im on a bulking diet.. Eet alot of rice, peanuts, outs, chicken, fish and potatoes and no and then salads.. Very carb based, got it from a bodybuilder that spesialice in nutrition.. I have used evox 3dt with crea-pump.. They works very good 2gether. One week evox for endurance and the next week crea-pump for strenght gains. Bt not everyone is the same, diffrent sups work for diffrent people:)

Works wrote: Im on a bulking diet.. Eet alot of rice, peanuts, outs, chicken, fish and potatoes and no and then salads.. Very carb based, got it from a bodybuilder that spesialice in nutrition.. I have used evox 3dt with crea-pump.. They works very good 2gether. One week evox for endurance and the next week crea-pump for strenght gains. Bt not everyone is the same, diffrent sups work for diffrent people:)

Eish!!! :blink:

Used 3dt found that i had to up dosage every week...

Muscle junkie psycho worked well for me and chemical x has me up till 2am :whistle:

A bowl of oats... I used NO explode in the past and that was ok.

Works wrote: Im on a bulking diet.. Eet alot of rice, peanuts, outs, chicken, fish and potatoes and no and then salads.. Very carb based, got it from a bodybuilder that spesialice in nutrition.. I have used evox 3dt with crea-pump.. They works very good 2gether. One week evox for endurance and the next week crea-pump for strenght gains. Bt not everyone is the same, diffrent sups work for diffrent people:)

Then it can likes to sounds likes you has it in control!

ok you fools, didnt yal read the threads about how Dimethyl (dmaa) actually causes you to loose muscle? Thats the main stimulant found in jack3d, 3dt, psycho, etc...it also stuffs your heart up i think, jack rabbit had some tests done if memory serves correct..also its a vaso-constrictor, you want a vaso-dialater! So in short, the kick is not worth it!

Works wrote: Hey guys.. Im gona use cycle1 in about 2 weeks. Do you think i should use a pre-workout, or is it a wast? And if you answer is "yes" what do you recommend?

With previous cycles i did use pre-workouts, just want 2 know what your opinion is about it.

Thanks

Test/orals is a pre workout ....use the juice

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote: ....
Evox 3DT/Jack 3D is a good pre workout drink.....

No its crap!

Why do u say that?It works for me...nice pumps during workout...Do you have something better???

Wayne wrote: ok you fools, didnt yal read the threads about how Dimethyl (dmaa) actually causes you to loose muscle? Thats the main stimulant found in jack3d, 3dt, psycho, etc...it also stuffs your heart up i think, jack rabbit had some tests done if memory serves correct..also its a vaso-constrictor, you want a vaso-dialater! So in short, the kick is not worth it!

Left ventrical function is affected when using vasoconstrictors - thats BAD - really bad. Go speak to your Cardiologist.

Use Assault by Muscle Pharm. Its really worth the hype. No mad rush but you last for hours.

For the price you pay for 3dt and crea pump, get yourself whey protien, if you insist on a pwo,I personally like NO xplode, but like Orihalcon says a person adapts.

What about muscle marinade or condence?

jackrabbit1 wrote:

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote: ....
Evox 3DT/Jack 3D is a good pre workout drink.....

No its crap!

Why do u say that?It works for me...nice pumps during workout...Do you have something better???

Wayne wrote: ok you fools, didnt yal read the threads about how Dimethyl (dmaa) actually causes you to loose muscle? Thats the main stimulant found in jack3d, 3dt, psycho, etc...it also stuffs your heart up i think, jack rabbit had some tests done if memory serves correct..also its a vaso-constrictor, you want a vaso-dialater! So in short, the kick is not worth it!

Left ventrical function is affected when using vasoconstrictors - thats BAD - really bad. Go speak to your Cardiologist.

Use Assault by Muscle Pharm. Its really worth the hype. No mad rush but you last for hours.

Thank you for this post!
Was aware of Dimethyl being the active agent in those stim drinks but not the detrimental effect they have on your body...or training it would seem. Will go and read up. Any studies you would lift out as great reads on this topic?

With all the carbs you say your eating you don't need a pre workout.

I can like to be a idjit

Thanx to everyone...I also learned something new....Thats why I love this forum...

jackrabbit1 wrote:

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote: ....
Evox 3DT/Jack 3D is a good pre workout drink.....

No its crap!

Why do u say that?It works for me...nice pumps during workout...Do you have something better???

Wayne wrote: ok you fools, didnt yal read the threads about how Dimethyl (dmaa) actually causes you to loose muscle? Thats the main stimulant found in jack3d, 3dt, psycho, etc...it also stuffs your heart up i think, jack rabbit had some tests done if memory serves correct..also its a vaso-constrictor, you want a vaso-dialater! So in short, the kick is not worth it!

Left ventrical function is affected when using vasoconstrictors - thats BAD - really bad. Go speak to your Cardiologist.

Use Assault by Muscle Pharm. Its really worth the hype. No mad rush but you last for hours.

MP Assault was always my favourite until I started making my own Pre-workouts. Agree 200% here!