Waxy Maize Intra-Workout without Creatine

It was suggested to me by yours truly to use SSN Creamass intra-workout. I don't want to use Creatine though. I am looking for something that contains Waxy Maize that does not contain Creatine. Anyone have any ideas?

Hey long ago i had the same question but it wasnt answered but
ive found a product that works well its the only mass cgainer that doesnt contain creatine and has what you looking for, i think it was Called Monster Mass by Cytosports. works very well not a bad taste at all either try chocolate

I looked but cant find a intra but i used minster mass as an intra and it really worked plus it tastes great in between sets and its a 6 hour realize so when you finished you already have some protein you to help recovery and then ontop of that if you add a whey shake youll recovery great and get good results

Thanx for the help bro! Had a look on their website and on BB.com. Unfortunately it contains too much fat and protein.

What about SSN Cytomaize, that doesn't have any creatine in and it's waxy maize, used it once a while ago, worked really well!

Why do you want to use Waxy Maize? It's a terrible carb. Rather get something with more maltodextrin or at best Vitargo. Have a look here:

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/waxy_maize_starch_myth.htm

Pyro, why are you avoiding creatine...?

Why do you want carbs intra workout?

He is working with me guys,and its for pre and intra work out, he battles to get down the pre work out meal and suffers from low blood sugar towards the end of the work out so I am working out something with him and a few guys on bulk programs with a similar protocol I saw guys like mark dugdale's coach using. Combination of carbs pre and intra work out with loads of fluid to fill the muscle. There is some long science behind it that I read on one of the paid sites I subsribe to,I will try and find it when I have time.

Also pyro does battle with getting food volumes down that I have suggested and makes him nausius during a work out if eating too much

GHRP6 for appetite. Pyro you'll be stuffing yourself. It's cheap as well.

dont worry MA, i have ways and means for him to grow, and this way i have him doing it is working for 3 of my other clients,so let me work my magic

LXIX wrote: Pyro, why are you avoiding creatine...?

I have got some stretch marks on my biceps and shoulders and it is getting worse. I feel like my skin is already stretched to the max and it's gonna be much worse when I am done with my second cycle. I don't want to add any unnecessary stretching. I am afraid that I am gonna look like a zebra when I am done!

Thanx MA and DJ! DJ what do you think about the Cytomaize?

Arent you already in your second cycle? Anyway apart from some abdominal bloat i doubt you will get more stretch marks from creatine, it increases muscle density not all out size! But ya i know you probably dont want to take any chances, just thought i would put it out there.

What about sps trigger. Not waxy maize but its vitargo. No creatine and has hydrolysed whey and bcaas. Or plain sps vitargo is much cheaper

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Arent you already in your second cycle? Anyway apart from some abdominal bloat i doubt you will get more stretch marks from creatine, it increases muscle density not all out size! But ya i know you probably dont want to take any chances, just thought i would put it out there.

Yeah I am bro that's why I said when I am finished with my second cycle and not when I start my second cycle. No worries bro any input is always welcome! So you don't think I need to worry too much about stretch marks caused by the Creatine? Cause I normally gain 2-3kgs from the Creatine alone.

ice-rip wrote: What about sps trigger. Not waxy maize but its vitargo. No creatine and has hydrolysed whey and bcaas. Or plain sps vitargo is much cheaper

I have BSSA Dextrose at home and also their BCAA powder, so doing the Vitargo thing is not a problem to make on my own. My problem is that it HAS TO be waxy maize.

Pyro didnt you recently finish your first cycle ?

I did indeed! At the end of Movember.

Pyroclasm wrote: I did indeed! At the end of Movember.

Why so soon? 1.5 months is a quite a short time being "off" haha, but hey who am i to tell you what to do

Whats the cycle look like boet?

Lols nah buddy I always value your input and I would be mad at you if you didn't tell me when I am making kak. The problem is I leave for Germany at the end of Feb and I don't think I will be able to gym much when I start working there. So I am doing an 8 week cycle before I go. Will even have to PCT when I am in Germany so have to get a prescription for the meds from my Doc. The cycle consists of Test Prop, NPP, Anavar, Proviron, Clen, Yohimbine and T3 for 8 weeks like I said.

lol

Pyroclasm wrote: Lols nah buddy I always value your input and I would be mad at you if you didn't tell me when I am making kak. The problem is I leave for Germany at the end of Feb and I don't think I will be able to gym much when I start working there. So I am doing an 8 week cycle before I go. Will even have to PCT when I am in Germany so have to get a prescription for the meds from my Doc. The cycle consists of Test Prop, NPP, Anavar, Proviron, Clen, Yohimbine and T3 for 8 weeks like I said.

well looks like a sold cycle good luck bud!