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prop and which oral
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What would be the best oral to use with test prop? Also, even though prop is a cutting AAS, will you still gain soem muscle from it.
My goal is not to bulk up too much, maybe put on 3-5 kg's, but look bigger and more defined.
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If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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3kgs you could probabbly do, 5 is a shit load of 'muscle' i'd say be safe on the cycle to gain 3kgs muscle that would be good going...
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but you only really know how much water you holding when you come off your cycle... if your estrogen is controlled you can get lean + pack on lean mass while on a cycle... but if you uding dbol and test you got water, thats for sure.... how much not sure, all depends on how your body reacts to these drugs...
glad you gaining though, keep it up... eat clean, stay healthy!
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Prop Var cycles are brilliant,
Dont know what your stats are but if you ran the prop for 6 week and continued the VAR for another 2 you will get some good, clean and safe results.
Some will argue the Oral course is too long but you can push 8 weeks if you taking correct liver protection, eating right, getting enough water and not dopping. I pulled this exact cycle on my last cycle, was very pleased got nice and ripped and put on just over 3kg's of muscle from my calculations, also felt good and has maintained well.
Doses:
Again need stats to help pinpoint doses you but cycle would look like this,
Test prop- 100-180mg eod, weeks 1-6
Var- 60mg ed, weeks 1-8
Run Letro at .25
Run HCG 250-500IU 8 shots, weeks 6-8
Kessar- 20mg weeks 9-12
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Mr M thanks for ur answer.my stats6'4 115 bf 12-15% done 1 cycle of tst e and var.Andre:
Prop Var cycles are brilliant,
Dont know what your stats are but if you ran the prop for 6 week and continued the VAR for another 2 you will get some good, clean and safe results.
Some will argue the Oral course is too long but you can push 8 weeks if you taking correct liver protection, eating right, getting enough water and not dopping. I pulled this exact cycle on my last cycle, was very pleased got nice and ripped and put on just over 3kg's of muscle from my calculations, also felt good and has maintained well.
Doses:
Again need stats to help pinpoint doses you but cycle would look like this,
Test prop- 100-180mg eod, weeks 1-6
Var- 60mg ed, weeks 1-8
Run Letro at .25
Run HCG 250-500IU 8 shots, weeks 6-8
Kessar- 20mg weeks 9-12
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