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8 weeks anavar 50 mg a day
10 weeks sustanon 250mg a week
12 weeks equi 350 -350 mg a week
do i need to run hcg with a mild dose of test??
or just run clomid and clen???
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others may differ from me.
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Else, Take Nolva and Clomid as the PCT.
Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...
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so do i start like 2 weeks after last shot of sust followed by clomid and clen?
i just need to time my HCG use correctly
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You can try either although I prefer the first option because of the risk of desensitising the fellers to LH, and its closer relation to natural rythms...
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Reasons include 8weeks of var which your liver wont like, higher doses of EQ than test, and the fact that your running EQ the same length of time as sust (which clears quicker)
I think you need to think your cycles through more clearly, but that's just my opinion...
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Basically it looks like this. Day 1 PCT:5000IU, Day 4:5000IU, Day 8:5000IU, Day 13:5000IU, Day 18:5000IU, Day 23:5000IU
I hope this makes sense.
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Vega, with yours I'm inclined to worry about desensitising of tetes to LH stimulus that can occur from high doses or prolonged exposure to HCG... One PCT may work for one person but not another. Not attacking your protocol, but I think it is important to discuss all aspects when giving advice.
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@ Inja ,sorry my sust is 10 weeks,mis type not 12 and equi 12 weeks.
so do i start after my7 last shot of equi?? how lkong after last shot?
regarding the Var ,whats the maxium time u think i be on it?
anyways guys i appreciate critism,i dont take offense,im here to learn
thanks guys
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vega5...bro i am worried about that 5000iu's per shot dude..that can make u sterile if u are not using substances that cause heavy shut down for exteneded periods of time...such as high dose tren or deca...its just my opinion but also there was an old debate by doctari and conan stating that too high a dose of pregnyl at one shot can cause u to become sterile dude...just search the forum about that....
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Sash: Listen bro, how long you stay on orals is up to you. Although var is supposedly lighter on the liver when you increase doses to 50mg and up you increase toxicity. As a kickstart I don't use orals for more than four weeks. If in a cutter I usually push 6 weeks. Women will run up to 8 weeks or more but at lower doses. Your health is your decision, once you've educated yourself by reading all the wonderful knowledge that exists on the internet you can make this decision...
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Chemical experiment in progress....
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Thanks for not making me nervous. I'm climbing onto the web now and changing my PCT NOW!!! My wife will kill me if i'm sterile as she wants another baby next year.
look on the forum dude,there was big debate with Doctari and Conan about this topic...
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Lesa: Another point to consider is that prolonged usage of HCG can also desensitise the testes to LH. I think its better than mega dosing but something to consider when using a maintainance dose in a long cycle. Personally I don't suffer atrophy and decreased volume until a few weeks in, usually week five. Although negative feedback starts before actual atrophy this is when I start to add in a little HCG. Just to mimick the normal LH signal the testes should normally be getting.
Yea i agree there i was gonna start hcg in week 2 of my cycle but i think netro corrected me there and said go from week 4 or 5 which is what you saying. well maybe ill go 300 iu every 5 days
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Letrozole also stimulates LH production, right? So to what extent can be used during a cycle instead of HCG, are they even comparable in that sense?
From what i understood letro is an inhibitor just like arimidex so nope i dont think it stimulates lh production. Estrogen plays a role in your gains on cycle and it plays a role in your recovery as well so if you not careful with dosages letro will prevent estrogen conversion up to 95% which is quite bad as that affects everything.From what i gathered online arimidex at .5 mg which is half a tab a day should stop aromatisation at around 50 % which is good enuf i think. but nolva/kessar have deffinately shown to increase lh production on its own.
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well bro 500ius every other day has worked well for me in the past...give it a try
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