pct blues

urgh, feeling kak.

Just finished my first cycle ever of Test-Cyp. Small dose really of 275mg a week split into two weekly pins, for 10 weeks. (i'm 45, for what it's worth.)

Hit some HCG for a week after my last pin (ja ja I know about waiting 576 days since last shot or whatever, lol). Probably whacked 1000iu's every 3 days to kickstart the ole factory.

Started the Nolvadex same time too. First week was okay but now in my second week i'm feeling super kak come mid-day. Lethargic, not lus, eyes not focusing so lekker on the screen...energy down and very very flat overall. Depressed, to say the least, and too emotional for my liking.

Is this just par for the course? Please tell me this will go away? The thing is when I wake up in the AM I feel great. It's about 5hours after taking the tablet (when it's peaking) that I feel all of the above. Wondering if I should half the dose or just soldier through?

Thoughts?

Gee wrote: urgh, feeling kak.

Just finished my first cycle ever of Test-Cyp. Small dose really of 275mg a week split into two weekly pins, for 10 weeks. (i'm 45, for what it's worth.)

Hit some HCG for a week after my last pin (ja ja I know about waiting 576 days since last shot or whatever, lol). Probably whacked 1000iu's every 3 days to kickstart the ole factory.

Started the Nolvadex same time too. First week was okay but now in my second week i'm feeling super kak come mid-day. Lethargic, not lus, eyes not focusing so lekker on the screen...energy down and very very flat overall. Depressed, to say the least, and too emotional for my liking.

Is this just par for the course? Please tell me this will go away? The thing is when I wake up in the AM I feel great. It's about 5hours after taking the tablet (when it's peaking) that I feel all of the above. Wondering if I should half the dose or just soldier through?

Thoughts?

Well as you know your timing was wrong so therefore all you have been feelings is the side effects of the drugs and not the effects of kickstarting natural test. That was a very small cycle you hit and would hardly have shut you down, then again your age at 45 you might have been low to start with and running the test now might have dropped you a bit to low. Try take the Tamoxifen in the evening and see if that makes you feel better.

feeling much better. it was definately the side effects of the drugs leaving my body...

(Next time i'll wait before commencing PCT, although as we agree the PCT timing was not the reason for my feeling 'swak'.)

Is there anyway to combat those nasty-ass withdrawl feelings, or must one just grin and bear it? Is Ritalin something that could be taken during those grey days?

Maybe it's not dopamine related or even seratonin, maybe it's just high levels of estrogen and low testosterone.. I was for years on end taking stuff that messes up my brain chemicals when in actually fact I was just suffering low testosterone.

I must be honest and I find PCT is quite tough, it effects me worse as I get older and it lasts longer and longer to the point that I don't want to even gym and lose all my gains, so ja I don't know if there is an easy way through it..

Ritalin isn't the answer, i've taken monster doses and can't say it's even really made me feel better.

Some tough love is needed here. You are terribly misinformed as to how drugs work and it's obvious you didn't do any howework before starting your cycle. For example speaking about withdrawal effects, the dosages you used (far too low for results but enough to have the same side effects as double that dosage of Test which would have been the correct dosage and given amazing results. Can't blame the drugs dude this is all you. Luckily we are here to help. Go to the articles and read up on PCT, then go to the PCT section and read the stickies. We can help you with this problem quickly hey, but we're not gonna spoon feed you. When you read up, come back and ask as many questions as you can then can sort you out.

Morning Pump,

Got my blood results today. Quite interested to hear your thoughts?

46 year old male
76.9kg
Body Fat I don't know, let's say <7%
1.87Meters
Total Test 21.0
SHBG 30.2
Free Test 479
Blood Pressure 129\81

It's been 8.5 weeks since my last test cyp injection, of a 10 week Test Cyp only cycle.
Finished up my PCT (HCG & Nolva) 3.5weeks ago.

In three weeks time I start a 12 week cycle.
Week 1-12 450mg's Test Cyp
Week 1-4 20mg's daily DBOL
Week 6-12 40mg's daily Provirion

Arimidex 4 drops e.o.d from week 1...(ramp up if needed).

PCT on hand: Clomid, Nolva, HCG

Correct height, 1.78Metres. Sorry

Brilliant blood test results for 46.

Next time don't do blood tests so soon after PCT. Nolvadex and Clomid stay in your system for ages and results might not be a completely accurate reflection of your recovery. Often testosterone levels will drop quite a bit a month or so after completing PCT. But your results nevertheless look great.

Gee wrote: Morning Pump,

Got my blood results today. Quite interested to hear your thoughts?

46 year old male
76.9kg
Body Fat I don't know, let's say <7%
1.87Meters
Total Test 21.0
SHBG 30.2
Free Test 479
Blood Pressure 129\81

It's been 8.5 weeks since my last test cyp injection, of a 10 week Test Cyp only cycle.
Finished up my PCT (HCG & Nolva) 3.5weeks ago.

In three weeks time I start a 12 week cycle.
Week 1-12 450mg's Test Cyp
Week 1-4 20mg's daily DBOL
Week 6-12 40mg's daily Provirion

Arimidex 4 drops e.o.d from week 1...(ramp up if needed).

PCT on hand: Clomid, Nolva, HCG

How you feeling bro? Has your mood increased ?

Good blood levels...

Maybe start the proviron a little later and run it to PCT or just increase its length to PCT. Sometimes that gap till PCT is quite nasty feeling yourself dip and dip, so it might be worth while running the Proviron until the day before you start.

Morning all,

My mood is great. Back2 my old self. Libido took a bit of a dive during PCT but I made friends with a guy called Cialis. Probably time to part ways with him as I'm feeling "back to my old self'.
Also, any belly fat I had has been incinerated...Got some loose skin which sucks, but hello 8 pack.

Have I lost muscle too? Yeah i'm sure some, but my strength has never (in my life!) been like this. Benching weight and pulls up as I could never do in my 20's. Strong and lean all around.

5 small meals a day. For my upcoming cycle i'll increase the portions though.

Thanks for the advice on the Provirion. Will re-look my plan and implement along those lines...

21 sleeps til i'm back on cycle...

Hi... I didn't really want to start a new thread for this one:

I'm less than 2 weeks out from my cycle.
I start a 13 week cycle.
Week 1-12 450mg's Test Cyp
Week 13 Test Cyp 200mgs
Week 1-4 20mg's daily DBOL
Week 7-17 40mg's daily Provirion

I bought some Milk Thistle capsules to help the liver. Shall I start taking them leading up to cycle, or 2) can I take them whilst using DBOL, or 3) take them after the 4weeks dbol cycle is done.

Also, I heard it's not a good idea to take pre-work together with DBOL... Can anyone verify this aint a good idea?

Thanks all,

Gee wrote:
Also, I heard it's not a good idea to take pre-work together with DBOL... Can anyone verify this aint a good idea?

lol kak storie

Gee wrote: Week 1-4 20mg's daily DBOL

30-40mg/day.

Milk Thistle question though, sir?

Muscleaddict wrote:

Gee wrote: Week 1-4 20mg's daily DBOL

30-40mg/day.

Will see how it goes...

Gee wrote: Milk Thistle question though, sir?

2 weeks before cycle start using, and 2 weeks after oral you can stop.

started my cycle on Saturday. I'M Wondering if there's X in these DBol capsules... :ohmy:

Hi Muscleaddict.

I've ramped the DBOL doseage up every week. From yesterday i'm hitting 40mgs daily.
Question: I haven't experienced any of the insane back pumps that I have read so much about. Does this mean my gear is bunk?