Clomid and extreme brain-fog / pressure

Hi guys.
As the title suggests I'm experiencing great pressure build-up in my head, having a hard time following conversations, even thinking just got harder.

I've only introduced Clomid (50mg) (37 days after cycle) today, but after about 5 hours I was man-down.
Can't see myself getting work done feeling like this.

Would like to know if this happens to some of the more clued-up guys or if anyone has some advise on this.
I've got (according to the beginner-bulking-cyle):
LP Clomid
LP Nolva
LP Aromasin (got this just to be safe)

My plan was the suggested
50mg Clomid for two weeks
Then onto the 20mg Nolva ed.

Shots guys! Just thought I'd rather quickly ask than trying to go on by myself.

Happens to me on Clomid. Terrible drug, try just use the Nolva and see if that helps.

Roger that! I'll do that.

I must admit, I know some of the guys here have said they turn into 'bitches' or get emotional, etc. I guess if I run it for longer I'd have experienced that as well, but brain-fog, memory-loss, etc. That's just scary.

Thanks 00pump!

Exiled wrote: Roger that! I'll do that.

I must admit, I know some of the guys here have said they turn into 'bitches' or get emotional, etc. I guess if I run it for longer I'd have experienced that as well, but brain-fog, memory-loss, etc. That's just scary.

Thanks 00pump!

Just so you know, most AI's (aromasin included) as well as Nolva do the same.. My worst part about a cycle is these toxic drugs needed for PCT. I just tend to find less with Nolva, and Aromasin.

There is no crappier feeling than starting Clomid...

One of two choices:

1) Ride the bull by the horns and guts it out,

2) Skip it, like Pump said. Straight into Nolva.

Goodluck

Pump I concur that things are a bit easier on the nolva and Aromasin route. Still some fogginess but much better than a good 'old clomid. I remember reading muscle addict's sticky in the hpta and that he prefers the clomid first, followed by Nolvadex. He gave some interesting reasons for that, though.

But for now I'll just keep continuing my nolva.

I might have disappointed, Optron. Went over to the nolva.

Haha, no disappointment bud, whatever works for you!

I've recovered fine with out Clomid and had kids. You really can do many things to recovery. Simple low dose Letro for 3 months could be enough. A doctor never forces you to use a drug if it's giving you side effects.

Agree fully with Pump, just want to add your problem might be solved a beta blocker. It's worth a shot you have nothing to lose. Try Purbloka for 3 days and see if it helps.

Hi guys. Long time.

Need some advice once again. I’m in quite a curious situation to be honest.

After finishing PCT with only Nolva (only 30 tablets) I’ve not been feeling too well, had some blood tests done 1 month after PCT and :
Total Testosterone 5.3 nmol/l [ > 12nmol/l]
SHBG 41.8 [11.1 – 78.1]
Free Testosterone 86 pmol/L [180 – 739]
LH 2.9 U/L [1.8 – 8]
FSH 5.1 U/L [1 – 12]
Oestradiol 93 [0-160]
Prolactin 6 [4-15]

Needless to say, low testosterone was my problem for not feeling well. Anyways, I’ve ended up at a urologist and told him my entire story. He seems to think I might have secondary hypogonadism, but I think I just need proper recovery. What I don’t understand, however (maybe someone can chip in here) is that he gave me testosterone again. The first 3 shots are going to be 250mg of testosterone Depo per shot, 10 days between each shot [so I've divided it every 5th days just for more stable blood-levels].

He then wants to introduce Nebido and then taper it off and later-on introduce things like HCG etc to see if I can be running on natural production. (?)

What I want is to function naturally. I did:
* About 8 weeks with Test Cyp @ 300mg/s week
* T-bol bridge. Started with 250mg, but didn’t find it necessary to go to 500mg due to experiencing incredible new strengths, energies, etc @ 300mg.
* Introduced HCG at week 3/4 - 250iu twice a week [my balls still shrank though, they only regained size during PCT]

Here are my pre-cycle bloods: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...-test-results#208972

In the meantime I had an episode where my nipples became tingly and smallish lumps started to form. Aii. Not sure what the hell I should be doing.
I've started this ride, understood the risks. Now, however I honestly need some guidance on this matter.

Can anyone please help.

On the one hand I'm questioning whether I should now be receiving testosterone and shouldn't be doing some HCG/PCT somethin?
And these lumps - I understand that bad T:E ratios can cause this, but should I use an AI/SERM?

Age? Body Fat?

Personally I would exhaust all other options before going on TRT once you go on mate there is no stopping it is a life long commitment.

So let's get your age and Body fat % and take it from there.

Totally agree Rooi Bul.
Really want to avoid TRT if possible.
I'm 25 yo
6 feet
78kg
Dont drink alcohol
Healthy eating 90% of the time.

I'm not sure if I'm inclined to follow the urologist's approach. But I don't want to just go ahead and do what I think is best.

It's sad do young...

Bud I would try and recover hey seriously. It is going to take time and patience but man its worth a try.

Get off the testosterone wait the appropriate time for the Testosterone to clear your system as per the PCT article. And run PCT 3 train heavy and hard sleep and rest enough get bloods done 6-8 weeks after PCT 3 and see where you are at it might take 2-3 PCT 3 protocols but then again on the other side of the coin it might not work but at least you tried then.

I was in your boat at 25 but at 28 after 3 PCT 3 protocosls my system was back online a busy of mine ran 3 of them also and he is on TRT for life so yeah it depends on the damage to your HPTA

Dankie Rooi Bul. Yeah it's definitely worth the try! I mean, it's endogenous, natural production we're talking about. But I'm curious why my recovery was so poor. I left out Clomid because I was feeling absolutely terrible on it - I'm not sure if leaving that out played a part in the poor recovery.

Quick question though. There's not that much testosterone in my system because TRT-dosages are smaller. In total I think I've been given 460mg of TEST DEPO from 20th September till today.
Should I still wait the 36 days?

When I ran my cycle of 300mg's it felt like the first time as was functioning as a male since my teens, getting stronger, actually getting morning-wood, etc. I used to be very tired, lethargic, not driven for anything. Even before the cycle my testosterone levels were on the low-ish side. I'm wondering if it could be that my HPTA is just a bit 'slower' than the average guys'.

Is your HPTA fine now or did you get it online with 3 x PCT3's - but another cycle would just crash it down again and then you'd might need 3 PCT3's again?

Oh yeah, what about these smallish lumps. They aren't itching, not sensitive, no burning sensations or tingling, but when I pinch, I feel them (just to check their status, not trying to aggravate them).

If I should wait another 36 days, should I take an AI in this time?

The lumps are more than likely due to the hormone imbalance.

It took me 3 PCT 3's to get back online. Now after every cycle no matter how big or small I wat the necessary clearance time and hit a PCT 3. After that I take total time on cycle plus the ckeance and PCT time off

Hi Rooi Bul. Thanks for the reply, man.

If the lumps are due to hormonal imbalance, do you think I should just leave it, or should I do something with letro/aromasin/nolva? Or would that be adding to the problem?

They have been very small for many weeks, but have now gotten noticeably larger. Don't hurt, not getting that 'nipple on shirt sensitivity', but definite lumps, looks disgusting.

You could add Aromasin till last day of PCT as per PCT 3

Exiled wrote: Hi guys.
As the title suggests I'm experiencing great pressure build-up in my head, having a hard time following conversations, even thinking just got harder.

I've only introduced Clomid (50mg) (37 days after cycle) today, but after about 5 hours I was man-down.
Can't see myself getting work done feeling like this.

Would like to know if this happens to some of the more clued-up guys or if anyone has some advise on this.
I've got (according to the beginner-bulking-cyle):
LP Clomid
LP Nolva
LP Aromasin (got this just to be safe)

My plan was the suggested
50mg Clomid for two weeks
Then onto the 20mg Nolva ed.

Shots guys! Just thought I'd rather quickly ask than trying to go on by myself.

God Blessed me with this.

I take 100MG of Clomid for 7 days then start Nolva for 30 days.

Ek weet nie eers dat daar Clomid en Nolva in my stelsel is nie.Ek voel soos in fokkol.

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