New And need PCT guidance

Hi Guys

Im super happy i found this site, I have started using Steroids recently and i have been doing research as i have been going on. And i have realized that i have been mislead most of the way.

Here is the thing I was told to go on Trend stacked with Dianabol. I think i have one more shot left and then i should be done. Now this is the issue im faced with. I was not told anything about a PCT and i really need some guidance on what i should get to make sure the body recovers to normal and i don't lose my gains.

I have been on for about 4 weeks now and funny thing is i went from 80KGs to 74/75KGs thats when i realized something was wrong, because i should be gaining and not loosing. Thats when i started doing research and found out i should have been on Decca rather. Im not that angry with the guy, because i look a lot better and more ripped than i was 4 weeks ago...and i mean a lot. But was still the wrong product.

Could somebody give me some guidance on what and when i should take the PCT and what PCT i need to take as i need to start looking for it now as im situated in the middle of nowhere.

I would really appreciate any help...thanking you in advance

Killa

Shoe

LoL - Yeah the story of my life bro. Anyways off to gym quickly hopefully I could get some kinda help better than what i was told.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/info...9-post-cycle-therapy

thanks Oupa, I have read almost everything last night that the site has to offer. Thanks, i guess i will try going with the no.3 one then! Thanks so much

Be sure to read this as well: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...-hpta-and-pct#169502

Eat clem and trend hard

Hi killa welcome
How were your sides on dbol and tren?

Nothing so far, however today im starting to feel some sort of pain in the lower back. But not sure what that is. But so far so good i guess....I just looked at the bottle now i think i have 1 maybe two more shots left. But i dont think ill do Trend again. Thinking Decca300 Or sus and Test? Im extremely new and noob at all this....just want to Gym and get fit

I take it you a lady with that picture?

Sadley not, only pic i found when making the account...sorry to burst your bubble

Lol nah no worries bro

Killa wrote: Nothing so far, however today im starting to feel some sort of pain in the lower back. But not sure what that is. But so far so good i guess...

No harsh sides? You got it easy, count your blessings mate. What about physiological sides from the Tren?

Killa wrote: have been on for about 4 weeks now and funny thing is i went from 80KGs to 74/75KG

Damn, you must be diced to the bone mate. At least you ended on a good time, ready for summer!

Killa wrote: just want to Gym and get fit

Breh! You don't need AAS for that! I'm sure you have bigger goals in mind.

Nope so far seems good? But that's why i did my research and was pretty angry with the guy that gave me Trend. in just 2 days of research i know more about steroids than they will ever know. But as i said i just started and im really liking the results in such a short space of time!

Having said that if i was on it for 4 weeks how long should my resting period be before i do another cycle for bulking? Any recommendations?

Well im not looking that good yet but hopefully i can get there, putting in a lot of effort.

And Yes! I now have bigger goals in mind you right after seeing the results are amazing!
I want to try more! But i want to do it safe...hence why i stumbled upon this site.

Okay, back up a second. So this is your first cycle. And you used Trenbolone (not Trend), that alone is a humongous step. Then (as you said above you want to do PCT 3) after PCT, take time off. The old rule of thumb was time on = time off. A more conservative and safer approach is: time on + PCT time = time off. That being said a 4 week cycle is really quick. Perhaps you don't have to wait so long, but rather play it safe and take your time.

Consider this: when you are done with PCT, maybe a month or so after, go do blood tests to see where your test is sitting. I reckon that would be a safe time to establish how your body has recovered.

I am starting to think you didn't get real Tren. Your moods didn't flare unexpectedly? You didn't feel hotter than normal? You kept regular sleeping patterns? Just brain storming, not accusing your source hey.

Yeah says TREN Fast acting compostion: Trenbolin Acetate 10ml vial. I read the forum rules so i know i can't say the brand or name or anything. But whenever i purchase anything, not saying its the best brand but its the best i could find in SA. I just at the time thought all steroids did the same thing (I was such a noob) So im 100% sure its the real deal and the dude that gave it to me also went on it and he says he cant sleep and is tired and stuff. And i told him its from the tren* sorry thought it was trend. I just had one incident where my mood spiked wait 2. But that's normal to me. And im always Hot even in Winter. So that's also normal to me. Sleeping patterns until yesterday kinda felt different and been fatigued the past two days, but i have been training HARD.

When i go to do the blood tests do i tell the doctor i was on the gear? Or do i tell him just to test my blood for what....sorry im such an idiot when it comes to this.

Thanks for the advice, i will take a decent time off, then can you recommend something for me to bulk for my next cycle? I want to get a bigger chest and arms....thats kinda what i want to push for. Oh and how long must the cycle be when im on the next stuff? because a dude told me 3 months, i was like WTF!?

Honestly bud, you need a lot more help than any of use can give you in this topic even if it goes on for a few pages. You have absolutely no idea what you're doing and you are going to screw yourself up. Most of use here did a fair amount of research before we started using steroids. You can't jump a tren cycle for your first cycle and then try to learn as you go. That's very irresponsible.

You really need to take some off, do a lot of research on safe AAS use, and learn how to eat properly first. Welcome to the forum but watch and learn for a while and use the search function. We will help you but we won't spoonfeed you if you don't put in some effort first to educate yourself a bit.

Muscleaddict wrote: Honestly bud, you need a lot more help than any of use can give you in this topic even if it goes on for a few pages. You have absolutely no idea what you're doing and you are going to screw yourself up. Most of use here did a fair amount of research before we started using steroids. You can't jump a tren cycle for your first cycle and then try to learn as you go. That's very irresponsible.

You really need to take some off, do a lot of research on safe AAS use, and learn how to eat properly first. Welcome to the forum but watch and learn for a while and use the search function.

Killa

Listen to what this man is telling u.... if you don't, we will chat again in 2 years time when you have completely fucked yourself up and in need of serious help.

Thanks you guys rock...not even going to do the last one. I will end it and go back to the drawing board. And hopefully by next year sometime will be more educated on this. Thanks once again guys.

Hey Muscle addict. I would just like to point one thing out. I went to a guy whom is the biggest in the gym and asked for advise and guidance and he seemed like he was in charge as well. And at the time it looked like he knew what he was doing. Hence the reason why i started researching and found out he knows absolutely jack about what he is doing and what he gave me. You are 100% correct im irresponsible as im a single parent and thus is the reason why i came here for some guidance so i don't stuff up my body. It just pissed me off that somebody could just give me Tren straight off the bat like that expecting he knows what he is talking about. I would never do that to anybody not even my worst enemy. However im going through this site and getting as much info in as possible, and i cant stress enough you guys have been a great help so far. Thanks!

Ja I wish people would get second third forth opinions. What you did was idiotic. However 16 years ago I was told by a NABBA champ to take tren as it's one of the "safest steroids", after telling him I was having harsh side effects with "the safer stuff". Do not trust someone just because they have good genetics but lack in the brains department. What's worse is they actually believe the crap they talk.

Pump i agree 100% with you bro. Well im super glad about your guys community, and happy i found this place. I have been browsing things all day on here. Just wish i knew where to get somethings....but that's not allowed. Well im super keen to get a little bit more pumped...so i will be sticking around for advice as where i live is a bunch of brain dead people.

Killa I think the bigger picture is what matters. You quickly picked up on your own that something is amiss and tried to find another opinion. There are many cases we don't even hear about where what happened to you happens to other guys and they carry on totally oblivious.

Point is educate yourself. There are some well written articles on this site, as well as large parts of a published book on AAS has been made available here;
www.anabolic.org/

Ciao ciao

Agreed! thanks bro!