Genotropin

Hey Guys,

Been a while since I've been in these parts.

I've a Crossfit guy looking to take his "sport" to the next level and make it further in next years qualifiers. Apparently if you do well at comps they do test (how reliable that is i don't know) and wants to stay away from AAS.

He takes quite a beating with their shitty workouts and wants to improve tendon and ligament strength, plus gain a little extra lean mass. He's apparently going to run it for the next 12 months.

He asked me about Genotropin from Pfizer. I'm well out of touch and said I'd presume it was legit stuff because it was made my Pfizer but I'd ask anyway.

Anyone used it or can back up my initial thoughts?

Cheers

If he can afford it great.

There is a new test out for HGH that changes the detection time from a couple of hours to a couple of weeks.

00pump wrote: If he can afford it great.

Daddy bought him an Audi S3 - money not really a problem.

just make sure its not fake....

VonD wrote: just make sure its not fake....

Well he'll need to be sure of his source on that one, but he's apparently bought other pfizer and pharma stuff from this guy before. Although I was suprised at the price, which i obviously can't mention.

Genotropin is not the cheapest brand around...if the price is suspect dont even bother

However if its all in the official Pharma's box, etc, then you good to go.

How exactly would one run this? I'm thinking of going the hGh route after this cycle but I have no idea AT ALL when it comes to growth hormone.

Can it be run alone? What would the benefits be? Some advise PLEASE guys

Yeah sure bro what is your aim with the HGH? And is your wallet nice and plump?

My aim is just to possibly maintain some of the gains made from my current cycle. But aside from that and more importantly, I just want to use it to aid in recovery. I am training quite a bit. My training looks quite a bit like that of crossfit but I add a lot more powerlifting and strength work.

my body takes a f@cking pounding every week. So I want to use it to counter that.

My current cycle looks like this so if its going to cost roughly the same then I am game

Week 1-5: Turinabol at 60mg per day. (3 per day)
Week 1-16: Testocyp at 500mg per week. (2ml per week)
Week 1-16: Masteron 150 at 375mg per week. (2.5ml per week)
Week 1-16: Primo at 600mg per week. (3ml per week)
Week 1-18: Adex at 0.25mg eod. (6 drops)
Week 3-16: 2ml of NPP a week

Thanks Pyro

Glad things are going for you at the moment brother. Cycle looks solid. What are you gonna bridge with? How is your diet looking bruski? It would be a shame if all those angel tears are wasted because of a poor diet.

HGH I would suggest at 6-8ius per day.

ninjajuice wrote: my body takes a f@cking pounding every week. So I want to use it to counter that.

Just remember that when you're done with PCT you won't be able to train with the same intensity as you have been on cycle. It takes a while to recover after a long cycle like this. If you try to you will overtrain which will cause muscle loss even if you're on HGH. You can't make up for low testosterone levels with HGH. Start the HGH asap if you've almost finished your cycle. It will take a while to notice the effects.

Start at 3IUs a day and slowly build up from there or you will most likely get some nasty side effects like joint pains, sore wrists. 5IU pharma grade is enough. If you are using AAS with it thats a different story. You will inevitably lose some muscle without high test levels anyway so be realistic about your expectation considering how much $ you are about to spend.

Pyroclasm wrote: Glad things are going for you at the moment brother. Cycle looks solid. What are you gonna bridge with? How is your diet looking bruski? It would be a shame if all those angel tears are wasted because of a poor diet.

HGH I would suggest at 6-8ius per day.

Thanks for the reply bud.

Diet is solid. Working off an old DJ diet that I have tweaked slightly. I will be bridging with anavar, proviron and prop most probably.

Muscleaddict wrote:

ninjajuice wrote: my body takes a f@cking pounding every week. So I want to use it to counter that.

Just remember that when you're done with PCT you won't be able to train with the same intensity as you have been on cycle. It takes a while to recover after a long cycle like this. If you try to you will overtrain which will cause muscle loss even if you're on HGH. You can't make up for low testosterone levels with HGH. Start the HGH asap if you've almost finished your cycle. It will take a while to notice the effects.

Start at 3IUs a day and slowly build up from there or you will most likely get some nasty side effects like joint pains, sore wrists. 5IU pharma grade is enough. If you are using AAS with it thats a different story. You will inevitably lose some muscle without high test levels anyway so be realistic about your expectation considering how much $ you are about to spend.

Thanks for the help MA.

1.I understand that I will lose some muscle and I'm ok with that. Will the HGH have a major influence in my recovery rate? That is the main thing I am after, more so than retention of muscle.

2.I still have about 8/9 weeks left on this cycle so should I add the HGH now. If so still at that dosage?

3.Will this lead to HGH gut? That I DO NOT WANT. I'd rather give it a miss then.

4.There is a good possibility that I can get pharma grade but that is not confirmed. I can definitely get Syntropin though. Would that suffice? If so does the dosage remain the same?

5.Wow just checked the price. Goodness me haha.(its in a different league to that cycle) How long should I run this for?

edit: ok wait maybe not that much more. At 5iu a day it will cost roughly the same for 6/7months if my calculations are correct. That I actually don't mind (calculation based on syntropin)

1) Yes, definitely.
2) It all comes down to the money and how long you can afford to run it. I'd say if you start when you do your last test shot you'll start noticing the GH's effects pretty nicely when you're finishing PCT. Give it about 2 months, and then you'll start seeing more significant results as time goes on.
3) No. That's a misconception. You need a massive combo of HGH, insulin and most likely IGF1 as well before you need to worry about that.
4) Syntropin is one of the many Chinese HGH imports and is generally decent but I'm not up to date with current reports on it.
5) How old are you? The older you are the more dramatic results will be. If you can afford to then aim for 5/6 months because you will continue to see improvements as long as you are on it.

IGF1 is another option to run between cycles as well to help maintain gains.

Muscleaddict wrote: 1) Yes, definitely.
2) It all comes down to the money and how long you can afford to run it. I'd say if you start when you do your last test shot you'll start noticing the GH's effects pretty nicely when you're finishing PCT. Give it about 2 months, and then you'll start seeing more significant results as time goes on.
3) No. That's a misconception. You need a massive combo of HGH, insulin and most likely IGF1 as well before you need to worry about that.
4) Syntropin is one of the many Chinese HGH imports and is generally decent but I'm not up to date with current reports on it.
5) How old are you? The older you are the more dramatic results will be. If you can afford to then aim for 5/6 months because you will continue to see improvements as long as you are on it.

IGF1 is another option to run between cycles as well to help maintain gains.

Awesome and thank you once again. I am 33. I can do 6months at least on the budge that I have set aside so lets see.

1.Is there a specific HGH that you would recommend? I have read a few less than positive things about Syntropin.

2.I do have access to Pharma Grade so other than Genotropin is there another that you would recommend?

3.Sorry to be a pain, but what are the benifits of IGF1? Isn't HGH superior?

Thanks in advance for all the help, I really do appreciate it

1) Find out what brands you can get then let us know so we can help you choose. Hygetropin and Kefei are generally good options.
2) When it comes to pharmaceutical grade go for the cheapest GH per IU as it is all the same but considering the price of pharma grade if that is the only option I would definitely rather choose IGF1. Maybe even IGF1 as first choice either way, the problem is I haven't tried it yet.
3) IGF1 (lr3) is much faster acting. You see results quicker than GH. The generaly consensus is that if you were to run either IGF1 or HGH on its own then IGF1 would be the better muscle builder. The problem is finding quality IGF1 lr3. HGH without steroids or insulin is not much of a muscle builder. Most of HGH's effects are through it's conversion to IGF1 in the liver. I am waiting for feedback on Enhanced Peptides IGF1 as I am very keen to try it out.

Ye I'm also keen to try the IGF from enhanced peptides when I'm coming to the end of my cycle, just waiting to hear from Fakey.

Ok cool. Thanks again. This will be my last question and then I shall leave you in peace. (for now that is )

1. I can pretty much get any pharma grade as a friend is a pharmacist.

2.But if Underground is the way to go I can get Syntropin and Hygetropin (well when he has stock again).

3.I also have access to Enhanced Peptides IGF1 so I'll happily be a guinea pig on that one.

So in your expert opinion, keeping in mind that muscle building is not the deciding factor, general recovery and ability to handle weeks of high intensity training is what I want. Would you go for:

A) Pharma Grade HGH
Pharma grade IGF1 (I have no idea if there is???)
C) Hygetropin or Syntropin
D) IGF1 Enhanced Peptides (I know you haven't tried it but lets assume its fairly decent, I am willing to take the gamble)

(If the negative price outweighs the positives of the pharma grade quality then I would rather not waste money. If you know what I mean)

Definitely not pharma grade HGH considering the price. With HGH you need to factor in how long it takes to get the full effects and if you can afford to run 5IU for 5/6 months at a time.

Although IGF1 works fast, it needs to be cycled on and off as it becomes less effective (receptors desensitise), but you can run it for 8 to 10 weeks (you'll hear a lot of opions on that) at either around 40-50mg/day or 3 times a week at 100mg after training. There are so many suggested ways to do it.

If money was no object I would probably be on HGH year round. But for bang for buck I would do IGF1 LR3 and then CJC1295 w/o DAC + one of the GHRPs to keep gains post cycle. Hoping to do that end of this year.

We've gone quite off topic so I'm locking the thread. Ninjajuice if you need any help start a new thread bro.