Insulin

Good day all , can anybody advice me about insulin usage and wirh what it can be combined for the best affect possible .

You won't find many willing to advise you on slin usage on here. Well there are a couple who will chime in I'm sure, your best bet is to avoid it and if that doesn't work get googling. Eish.. slin.. gives me goosebumps.

Dont u think it will be a good combination with GH?

Anyone with more info?

Lol waiting for a thread like this to open, from what ive reseached, please note this is for informational purposes only. That you try it out post workout, start on a low dose 2ius, they say u need 10g carbs per iu, and should increase the slin dose by 1iu every three days until you reach a "comfortable dose" now this is where the problem lies, finding that. The growth is crazy but so is the risks are crazy too, so after your shot they say wait for the time to peak which is 15min but the risk is to high so id knock that shake back straight away,50g whey and50g dextrose with 10g glucose,glut,creatine,bcaa, then an hour later a good meal carbs, protien,like 200g chicken breast and 300g potatoes, its alot of cals for that amount of ius but hell u dont playing with dbols here. Just what i have gatherd but might not be correct, but we all here to learn, but not many will help on a substance that can kill you. Unless you making bucks i wouldnt do it,there is many other substances like igf1 rather give that a brash. Peace.

Firslty I must express just how dangerous using Slin can be, Hypoglycemia can lead to coma and even death, this happens when blood glucose levels are extremely low. Slin can also cause you to become fat as opposed to lean if not taken at the correct times and if too many carbs are consumed, therein also lies the problem, each individual has differing insulin sensitivities so a higher dose for me may be needed and a lower dose for you.

The anabolic effects of slin are unquestionable but at what cost? Becoming a diabetic for the rest of your life? You may not get those side effects but it is very possible.
Slin should only be used when you can no longer grow on food and anabolics and GH/IGF. Then use it with GH as it has a synergistic effect when taken with GH as well as the fact that you are less likely to go Hypo as easily when taken with GH as GH makes you insulin resistant.
When it comes to the type of Slin the faster the better as it is easier to control the active times and onset of the drug. You don't want it peaking in your sleep. Carbs should be started at 10g/iu of slin then adjusted according to tolerance, a Glucometer is a safe option to monitor blood glucose levels and always have carbs on hand, ie honey, coke, as these are fast acting carbs which should raise blood glucose levels quite quickly should you develop symptoms of hypoglycemia. Know the symptoms of going Hypo, always tell your family members and training partner you are on slin so they know what to do incase of an emergency, and don't take your shots close to bed time.

Seriosly do not mess with this drug if you are not an extremely experienced athlete with compounds and already strict with your dieting and training, it is not a miracle drug, and if you not planning on going Pro just stick to GH and AAS.

Thanks all for the good advice , researching Slin made me think again about going on it . Ill ma stick with the Depo AND Dbol for now ....

Very nice info koe, +1

Always solid advice bro +1

I'm a type 1 diabetic (insulin dependent)and I'd rather advise you to stick to testosterone and hGH.
There are a list of side effects I experience with slin use, can go through if you want.

Personally I find a beginner roid cycle more anabolic than doing anything with slin.

Cirus wrote: I'm a type 1 diabetic (insulin dependent)and I'd rather advise you to stick to testosterone and hGH.
There are a list of side effects I experience with slin use, can go through if you want.

Personally I find a beginner roid cycle more anabolic than doing anything with slin.

I wholly agree with your statement on he side affects of slin, but I'm sorry there is no hormone as anabolic as slin none. Slin is the primary reason for mass monsters of today and the only rood remotely close and it's still far off is Tren. The thing is you need to know how to time your shots with other peptides and have your diet planned to the T to get the most out of slin, and I only know a handful of guys knowledgeable enough to plan it right.

Im more than willing to provide you any info on slin as long as you at the right level.

- Years of training
- Comprehensive diet
- Training schedule
- Social life
- Are you ready to die for this sport.

I would honestly like to know the protocols out of interest but it is not safe posting it here as half of this forum would be shopping for slin by lunchtime.

00pump wrote: Im more than willing to provide you any info on slin as long as you at the right level.

- Years of training
- Comprehensive diet
- Training schedule
- Social life
- Are you ready to die for this sport.

I've done some research stating that if it is stacked with test ect , you will grow like a monster an even if you are taking low dosages of slin ..! Although there are many dangers , it should only be done under the supervision of a professional in the field .

I've you got everything 00pump said I'd go for it

edit: posted a guideline, took it down incase it was frowned upon, will repost if given the go ahead...
its a guideline used by alot of known IFBB pro's

Post it.

I am not giving out doses here for the insulin because a lot of that comes down to individual sensitivity and experience.

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What do you need?
hgh and humalog (you can use humulin-r, though). IGF-1 DES can be helpful but not necessary, especially since no american research chemical/peptide suppliers carry real IGF-1, anyway.

The Protocol
- 5-10 mins before training: intramuscular injection of humalog, drink shake containing 10g dextrose/1iu insulin and ~50g whey protein.
- intra workout: consume shake containing 10g BCAA's, 10g creatine monohydrate, 7-10g dextrose/1iu insulin and ~25g whey protein
- immediately post workout: inject 10+ iu's hgh (no less than 10, 20-30 is the "sweet spot").
- 30 mins post hgh injection: consume shake containing 7-10g dextrose/1iu of insulin and ~50g whey protein
- 60 mins post hgh injection: eat a meal containing 150-200g complex and simple carbohydrates and 100-150g protein

Notes
- if you are using humulin-r, inject it subcutaneously 90 minutes pre workout. I would also then recommend changing your preworkout eating to a full meal 2 hours prior, a shake as described in step 1 about 45-60 mins prior and then some glucose tablets upon entering the gym as well as the intra workout shake.
- if you are using real IGF-1 DES (note: it is very expensive, and from china), inject it bilaterally in muscles to be trained that day pre workout. Prepare to adjust carbohydrate intake accordingly as IGF-1 will lower insulin sensitivity.

Yea i know the gh is high but i dont think its for the average family man anyways...

edit: it is also important to know that fat consumption must be kept really low close to insulin injections..
And do not fall asleep 4-5 hours after injection incase you go hypo in your sleep... and die...

just a friendly warning if your knowledge is limited in nutrition and macro's stay away before you put yourself in a early grave.also a quick internet guide wont cut it.people react vastly different on slin.you need to know yourself how carb sensitive you are etc.

o and there is no such thing as skipping meals or deviating from your set diet.

also slin gives a lot of water and should in fact be used in conjunction with hgh to limit fat gain.

natural-steroids-hgh-slin

follow the sequence.only when you Plataea move on to the next.

few things to consider.

Thats a very good point... I only ever add a new compound to my stack if i plateau, if i dont, there is no need for one... Alot of pros, add gh when they stop growing on AAS, and when gh stops improving their physique they add insulin.

Ball wrote: Thats a very good point... I only ever add a new compound to my stack if i plateau, if i dont, there is no need for one... Alot of pros, add gh when they stop growing on AAS, and when gh stops improving their physique they add insulin.

Where does this info come from? I'm not poking I am genuinely curious.

CHAPEL wrote: Where does this info come from? I'm not poking I am genuinely curious.

getbig forums
dont know if youve heard about gh15?

Ball wrote: I am not giving out doses here for the insulin because a lot of that comes down to individual sensitivity and experience.

The Protocol
- 5-10 mins before training: intramuscular injection of humalog

Why would you advise someone to take intramuscular insulin injection?

Wow, there is a big misconception of insulin here.

Cirus wrote:

Ball wrote: I am not giving out doses here for the insulin because a lot of that comes down to individual sensitivity and experience.

The Protocol
- 5-10 mins before training: intramuscular injection of humalog

Why would you advise someone to take intramuscular insulin injection?

Wow, there is a big misconception of insulin here.

Could be a typo, i didnt create article
or it could be that intramuscular injection speeds up delivey due to IM speeds up the entire process due to presence of capillaries...

IF you are using humulog, Intra muscular injections are fine

I use NovoRapid (subcutaneous injections) and it takes 10-15 min to start working and peaks at about 2h after injection. But this is with out training. Never take insulin before training as this is highly likely to cause a hypoglycemic event. The effect of training on GLUT4 is enough, but if you want to saturate the muscles with glucose (to be stored as glycogen in the muscle) then eat simple carbs + insulin after training.

using it before a workout has its advantages