Official peptide thread

No its not too close together. 4 hours is fine.

Thanx bud, it should be fine tho considering the average gh release is every 3-3.5 hours anyway if I'm not mistaken, naturally... Then ill use that protocol, will start from monday, I also look forward to seeing your results while being on cycle, what wiullk you be running now MA?

Thanks for the help +1

PoisonedPulse wrote: Thanx bud, it should be fine tho considering the average gh release is every 3-3.5 hours anyway if I'm not mistaken, naturally... Then ill use that protocol, will start from monday, I also look forward to seeing your results while being on cycle, what wiullk you be running now MA?

Thanks for the help +1

I'm running just the peptides for a while to see what they do. I was going to start a cycle but decided to delay it. I've got some anavar, tbol and test and will probably throw in some npp.

I had my first injection of ipam/cjc/melanotan2 earlier and then had a 1 hour nap. Slept so well.

PoisonedPulse wrote: Thanx bud, it should be fine tho considering the average gh release is every 3-3.5 hours anyway if I'm not mistaken, naturally... Then ill use that protocol, will start from monday, I also look forward to seeing your results while being on cycle, what wiullk you be running now MA?

Thanks for the help +1

Hey bud let me know if the peptides sorted that shoulder problem out. I am also considering it for a old shoulder injury.

Sweet same as me, will be interesting to compare, I will start on monday evening, I was thinking of a similar cycle in jan, but will see what my goals are by the new year, either stay lean or bulk, but for the meantime let's see what these peptides can do, enjoy the journey MA! ...

@greg, I shall do bud, hold thumbs cause I battled for chest tonight, hoping for a strong shoulder soon

Im holding thumbs bro, hope it works

Muscleaddict wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote: Thanx bud, it should be fine tho considering the average gh release is every 3-3.5 hours anyway if I'm not mistaken, naturally... Then ill use that protocol, will start from monday, I also look forward to seeing your results while being on cycle, what wiullk you be running now MA?

Thanks for the help +1

I'm running just the peptides for a while to see what they do. I was going to start a cycle but decided to delay it. I've got some anavar, tbol and test and will probably throw in some npp.

I had my first injection of ipam/cjc/melanotan2 earlier and then had a 1 hour nap. Slept so well.

How was the first nights sleep MA? Anything worth mentioning? Any Discomfort or was it pure bliss?

PoisonedPulse wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote: Thanx bud, it should be fine tho considering the average gh release is every 3-3.5 hours anyway if I'm not mistaken, naturally... Then ill use that protocol, will start from monday, I also look forward to seeing your results while being on cycle, what wiullk you be running now MA?

Thanks for the help +1

I'm running just the peptides for a while to see what they do. I was going to start a cycle but decided to delay it. I've got some anavar, tbol and test and will probably throw in some npp.

I had my first injection of ipam/cjc/melanotan2 earlier and then had a 1 hour nap. Slept so well.

How was the first nights sleep MA? Anything worth mentioning? Any Discomfort or was it pure bliss?

I did an IV injection of ipam/cjc before bed to see if I'd experience any of the side effects I'd read about compared to my previous SC injection and BOOM, got a big headrush, hot flushing and increased heart rate and blood pressure which wore off after about 10 minutes. I Slept very well after that and I feel very well rested compared to my normal sleep. I didn't get these side effects from a subcutaneous injection.

It makes me wonder about the bioavailability and potency of SC injection of ipam/CJC since hexarelin has a SC injection bioavailability of 64% (IV is 100%). But I haven't been able to find that info on ipam/cjc.

Rather interesting I must say, but isn't IV pinning a little risky? I think ill be leaving that up2 you, and ill stick with the SC shots, although that is a very good question, ill see if mr goggle can help me with anything, or the forum datbtrue, will post any findings.. Keen to hear your updates and progress

MA... Do you have anything to report back after 6 days in?? ... I shall be having my first shot of ipam and cjc now before I sleep...

so i thought i would give a small insight to my journey so far with ipam & cjc @ 300mcg a day each,

its been roughly 3 weeks now, nothing major to report in terms of strength or muscle, but that i expected, what i can say is that im definately holding condition after my cycle, weight has dropped slightly, BUT im getting even leaner, so i think the fat loss aspect is starting to work even thou my diet has been pretty rocky lately,

pumps are great still and my general well being is up, feel great all day which im loving, my sleeping patterns are awsome too, dead sleep and wake up earlier then i ever could feeling refreshed and ready for the day,

my shoulder injury (main reason for peptides) is slowly starting to subside, its never felt this good in a long time, although on certain exercises it still hurts. but hoping a few more weeks can bring justice to these peptides... ramble over haha

@MA hows it going for you???

PoisonedPulse wrote:
my shoulder injury (main reason for peptides) is slowly starting to subside, its never felt this good in a long time, although on certain exercises it still hurts. but hoping a few more weeks can bring justice to these peptides... ramble over haha

@MA hows it going for you???

Hey PP, you mention your shoulder injury and using peptides for it. Maybe you can advise, I am suffering with shoulder pain for about 2 weeks. I am using GH (5iu p.d) for about a month now, will this also help with my injury?

PoisonedPulse wrote: so i thought i would give a small insight to my journey so far with ipam & cjc @ 300mcg a day each,

its been roughly 3 weeks now, nothing major to report in terms of strength or muscle, but that i expected, what i can say is that im definately holding condition after my cycle, weight has dropped slightly, BUT im getting even leaner, so i think the fat loss aspect is starting to work even thou my diet has been pretty rocky lately,

pumps are great still and my general well being is up, feel great all day which im loving, my sleeping patterns are awsome too, dead sleep and wake up earlier then i ever could feeling refreshed and ready for the day,

my shoulder injury (main reason for peptides) is slowly starting to subside, its never felt this good in a long time, although on certain exercises it still hurts. but hoping a few more weeks can bring justice to these peptides... ramble over haha

@MA hows it going for you???

PP, mostly the same for me. I've also noticed some fat loss and the pumps are good. I haven't slept so well in years and find myself waking up after 6/7 hours sleep feeling completely rested.

I've also got a shoulder injury that has been bugging me on and off for a few years and the ipam/cjc has done wonders for that. Strength and gains wise I haven't noticed anything to get excited about, but if I inject preworkout I've noticed I get an extra rep or 2 in when going heavy.

To my understanding yes, but by no means over night, the difference with me is iv had physio work done, its been strapped and I took time off gym initially, so the peptides are nursing an oldish nagging injury that I have had, in my opinion if its a new injury that is bugging you get it seen too by a physio, that greatly helped me too, dry needling and all the massages they do, took away the main pain and discomfort, then look at options to aid in the recovery, but all I can say is so far it is helping, things that used to hurt, like benching and incline dumbells are no longer the issue they where and I can slowly start with those exercises again, not as heavy as I could but hey, its a start and I by no means am in a rush to push heavy and rehurt myself

I've been planning to go to pathcare to get my GH and IGF1 levels tested but haven't gotten around to it yet. If it's not too expensive I want to test GH blood drawn 20 mins post injection and then also at about 2 hours post injection to see how high GH peaks initially and how much it drops by.

Would be interesting to see MA, iv got a mate who I'm gonna ask about tests etc, his parents own a lab in my area, what tests would one need to test for? The above mentioned igf and gh levels? ... I'm highly curious and Ill see what damage to the pocket these tests would be, ill write back here tonight on any info I get at gym tonight,

I'm glad we feeling the same effects so far and its not just in my head haha, I must say I have to agree on the shortened sleeping hours, I'm sleeping my normal times and wake up after around 6 hours feeling great, I also tested not pinning pre bed, and I wake up feeling groggy and tired even after a solid 8 hours, so its safe to say sleeping benefits are greatly improved off the peptides

PoisonedPulse wrote: Would be interesting to see MA, iv got a mate who I'm gonna ask about tests etc, his parents own a lab in my area, what tests would one need to test for?

Yep, just test growth hormone and IGF1.

Thanks bud, ill let you know what results are, u say 20min post, and 2hours post, idealy, for the spike and then post it... ??

Draw blood 20/30 mins after. In pigs given ipamorelin by intravenous injection, GH plasma levels peak very quickly at 12 minutes :ohmy: post injection and then taper off. I can't find any data for humans but since sub q shots take a bit longer to get into the system I'm estimating 20 minutes and going on what guys on other forums say.

IGF1 you only need to test once. No point testing twice since IGF1 levels will still be elevated for days after you stop the ipam/cjc and it is expensive.

Pathcare charges R157 to test GH levels. They're going to call me back about IGF1. If we both do the tests maybe we should both do the 20 minute test, and one of us do a 2 hour test and one do a 3 hour test to compare.

bro i spoke to my mate tonight at gym, im going to see him at 9am tomorrow about the GH test, he wasnt too sure about the IGF-1 but will see when i go there tomorrow,

that sounds like a good plan, ill try for the post 2 hour test aswell as the 20minute post, if you could do the same with the 3 hour post would be great and we can compare results,

how are you doing your pins tho? IV?

as i do mine sub-Q

The IGF1 test is R442 so I think I'll give that one a miss for now. A bit steep. The test's name is Somatomedin C if they don't know what you mean by IGF1.

I do sub q shots mostly and IV only post workout so because it peaks faster so I can have my post workout carbs sooner

Eish ya that's very expensive, ill give it a miss too haha, ill see what they charge tho out of curiousity, sweet I'm interested in the results, will post findings soon bro,

I wouldn't do IV as how sure are you that the peptide is not contaminated? The risk outweighs the benefit, also may end up looking like a junkie.

My honest opinion on peptides, I used CJC and GHRP-6 for a month, only thing I noticed was better more deeper sleep, increased appetite especially after injection.
Other than that, no thanks ill stick with GH, peptides do not come close to even a 2.5iu shot of GH.
Granted if you are below 25 and don't have the cash for GH it may be worthwhile, but if you wanna truly grow, GH all the way.

Soooo gonna have to do a raincheck, had my shot earlier, came to the lab, only to find out they don't do the tests, sad thing is they didn't even know what they where, so maybe its better I didn't come here, but maybe saturday morning ill go to ampath labs at my hospital here, they said they can do the tests, bleh,

@koe007 .. I realise its nothing great compared to GH, but I am under 25 and I can't afford GH lol, so just testing the waters with the peptides, I'm enjoying the benefits so far, esp for my shoulder and the sleep, ill still stick to AAS for muscle building for now,

PoisonedPulse wrote: Soooo gonna have to do a raincheck, had my shot earlier, came to the lab, only to find out they don't do the tests, sad thing is they didn't even know what they where, so maybe its better I didn't come here, but maybe saturday morning ill go to ampath labs at my hospital here, they said they can do the tests, bleh,

@koe007 .. I realise its nothing great compared to GH, but I am under 25 and I can't afford GH lol, so just testing the waters with the peptides, I'm enjoying the benefits so far, esp for my shoulder and the sleep, ill still stick to AAS for muscle building for now,

GABA is cheaper and also greatly helps with sleep and increasing GH levels.
Im sorry I just can't find myself buying into this whole peptide craze, I calculated the dosage really needed for optimal results and the frequency of shots needed, plus all the times you can't eat in an effort not to blunt the gh effects and its just too much. The cost at that dosage would be quite high and frequency of pins impractical.

This is just my opinion guys, if it works for you then go for it.