Bar weight

Want to know if i bench say 105kg but the bar weighs 15 kg what can i say i benched 105 or 120kg.The reason i ask is in the gym the guys count the bar weight aswell thnx.

You count the bar in as well.

i heard u actually subtract the bar weight,,out of interest what do you squat and deadlift?

The bar weight is added, because that is what you benched. It's not about the weight of the plates, but the total you managed to lift. Thats how it works in powerlifting and weightlifting. Besides, what if you go to another gym that use a 5kg bar?

Hi i squat 100kg for 7 reps will try 120kg on smith machine but when i train at home with no spotter only 100kg.Deadlift 130kg i know it's not very good but to gym at home alone is not easy.The nearest gym is 40 km away will try to there mon thues and vry.

admin wrote: The bar weight is added, because that is what you benched. It's not about the weight of the plates, but the total you managed to lift. Thats how it works in powerlifting and weightlifting. Besides, what if you go to another gym that use a 5kg bar?

Exactly. An olympic bar and collars can weigh 25kg!

Eidolon wrote:

admin wrote: The bar weight is added, because that is what you benched. It's not about the weight of the plates, but the total you managed to lift. Thats how it works in powerlifting and weightlifting. Besides, what if you go to another gym that use a 5kg bar?

Exactly. An olympic bar and collars can weigh 25kg!

That's a heavy set of collars.

Also - depends what Olympic bar is being used, a lot of the bars at VA and Planet Fitness use cheap imported Chinese bars that don't weight 20kg. They actually weight closer to 17.5-18kg.

If you're using Eleiko, Zhang Kong, Werksan etc then they will be precisely 20kg, or at least within 10grams of it.

Yeah, i count it in too. 20kg straight out. Dont ever bother me much. I can bench 160kg but hardly do so.
Never over 140kg. what are ur feelings on singles...like 1 rep sets? More strength training rite.

Regards

always add the bar in....... its a weight why wouldn't you? And those must be the old school clamping collars if they are weighing 5 kgs..

Ya 1 rep sets are more strength orientated.. I do them every 2nd or 3rd week to see where i am getting. But just plain old 1RM sets arent going realy increase your strength it has to correlate with the rest of your programme.

I personally never count the bar weight in, I don't really count the weight I bench I just go as heavy as I can for 8-12 clean reps. Just how I am anyway

CHAPEL wrote: always add the bar in....... its a weight why wouldn't you? And those must be the old school clamping collars if they are weighing 5 kgs..

Ya 1 rep sets are more strength orientated.. I do them every 2nd or 3rd week to see where i am getting. But just plain old 1RM sets arent going realy increase your strength it has to correlate with the rest of your programme.

If 1RM doesn't increase your strength then I've been wasting my time for 2 years

Doing 1RM will increase your capacity to lift heavier weights, the heavier you can lift for 1 the heavier you will be able to rep out. Therefore 1RM sets increases your strength.

Powerlifters work in the 1-3 rep range. Some of the strongest guys around.

you are missing what im saying.. if you are working on a strength programme that incorporates 1rm then you will increase in strength, anyone will see strength increases in a 2 year space regardless of their programme.. i am relating it to rompel where if he were looking for strength (which i dont think he is as he is a bber) just simply adding in 1rm wont do much for his strength, of course it will rise as he would be lifting a heavy weight on a regular basis but not as much as it would if his programme was geared towards strength training rep set ratios as opposed to mass gaining set rep ratios..

lost in translation, we are on the same page though

CHAPEL wrote: you are missing what im saying.. if you are working on a strength programme that incorporates 1rm then you will increase in strength, anyone will see strength increases in a 2 year space regardless of their programme.. i am relating it to rompel where if he were looking for strength (which i dont think he is as he is a bber) just simply adding in 1rm wont do much for his strength, of course it will rise as he would be lifting a heavy weight on a regular basis but not as much as it would if his programme was geared towards strength training rep set ratios as opposed to mass gaining set rep ratios..

lost in translation, we are on the same page though

Phew I thought we had lost another good mind to the Mens Health Magazine brigade.

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