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18 Jan 2008 21:54 #610 by kraz
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Hi guys,

Recently obtained myself th e-book of Author L. Rea named Chemical Muscle Enhancement II.

Just wondered if anyone else has read his work and what you think of it? Have anyone ever tried the cycles that he recommends. It looks pritty hardcore. Definately no bull.

Lemme know what you guys think,

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19 Jan 2008 12:36 #611 by Doctari
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Give us some examples of his cycles, then we can see what he suggest, if it is hardcore or not!

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19 Jan 2008 14:32 #613 by Mr K
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Kraz could you email me that book , or where did you download it? Ive read the first book. He has pretty radical ideas... Its a good read.

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19 Jan 2008 21:54 #614 by kraz
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Haha... Will do Kevin... On 1 condition tho.. I would like your unbiased advise and help :) Deal?

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19 Jan 2008 22:08 #615 by kraz
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Same applied to you Doctari. Will gladly e-mail the e-book to you for advise and help on nutrition, training and AAS? Deal?

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19 Jan 2008 22:19 #616 by kraz
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Here is a preview.

Sorry if things got a bit mixed up. I copied and pasted from a pdf to doc.

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20 Jan 2008 11:54 #618 by MxT
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Guys I have the folowing books.
CME I
CME II
Laymans Guide 1 and II
burn the Fat feed the muscle
have about 20-30 iodd books on subject-so let me know what you need.
CME I and II or the best books on the subject written ever imo

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20 Jan 2008 13:35 #621 by Doctari
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Wow!! Does this individual have time to sleep and shit? It seems that he spends a lot of his time injecting himself. Very masochistic....VERY EXTREME CYCLE. Hope he has a couple of Physicians on his team...

MXT, where did you get the CME's from? Would like to read them..

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20 Jan 2008 21:59 #624 by kraz
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Doctari, kindly drop me a mail and I will gladly foward the book to you. No questions asked :)

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21 Jan 2008 14:22 #630 by MxT
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hi Doc- just been collecting them over the years....knowledge is power and all that(-,

drop me a mail at MEMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED and i will sort you out (-,

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23 Jan 2008 16:31 #679 by Mr K
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HI KRaz , sorry man got caught up with work...

Man you can ask me anything you want even with out the book. Im not an expert but I have a pretty large amount of resources and I like research. If there is anything I get stuck on I will just ask MX B)

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By the way that shot you had as your avatar looked awesome man , damn ripped!

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23 Jan 2008 21:44 #684 by Doctari
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Guys, this cycle of “Beastie Boy” has been bugging me the last couple of days. At first glance it looks very complicated and extreme, but if you have a closer look, it is a very good, average cycle for an athlete, probably competing in the 110+kg category. The comments I’m about to make about the dosages, is based on years of experience(to be exact, this year it will be 18 years of b/building for me) that I have obtained by asking athletes what compounds at what dosages and length of use they used in their pre-contest prep cycles. This does not mean I’m suggesting these dosages – I’m just commenting on what I know some guys, dosage-wise, are using currently.

Let’s have a look at what “Beastie Boy” used.
He made up an ampoule of the following short-acting esters, namely injectable Dianobol, Trenbolone and Testo-prop. The 3,5ml dosage consists of roughly 50mg of D-bol pd. Now, the average dosages a lot of heavy weights are using, falls into the range of 40mg+ pd – so, BB’s dose is about the norm. Just keep in mind that the injectable per dose is more potent than oral… Years back, one used to get Anapolan in an injectable form – 50mg of this was in potency equal clinically to about 150mg of the oral version. Let’s look at his Tren dose. BB uses 75mg pd – again, the average dosages for Tren range from 75mg-225mg every second day – so he averages about 150mg over 2 days, also again about the norm… I know of some athletes using much more Tren than 225mg. BB uses about 50mg Testo-prop pd – that amounts to 350mg per week, quite low actually.. The optimum I have gathered so far for the Big Guys, is somewhere between 600 – 1000mg Testosterone p week. I know of some local athletes using 2500mg p week!

Let’s look at his Winstrol dosage. BB is using 25mg per day injectable early in his cycle. The normal dosage is about 100-150mg every second day and I know of some athletes using more than this. Later on in the cycle, he stops the injectable and goes onto the oral version, using 50mg daily. The safe oral version is to use a dosage of about 0,2mg per kg body weight and to combine this with the injectable, as this will stress the liver less. The synergy between the oral and injectable combination has been shown to be more effective. The 50mg oral will definitely be harsh on his liver.

Let’s look at his insulin regime. Ah, now I have Kraz’s attention!!!
Now Kraz, just remember that Beastie Boy-dude probable weighs more than one and a half times your weight – so, don’t just jump in there and start using these doses…
His Glucophage dosage is about average – 500mg twice daily being the norm. He doesn’t state when he uses it, but I would opt for one in the morning with his main breakfast and his second dose 8 hours later, definitely NOT before bed – Glucophage CAN cause hypoglycaemia. He uses 8IU’S of insulin in the morning and 12IU’s at night, after his workout. I presume the latter will be with the intake of at least 60-100gr of mixed carbs. Now, about the insulin, BB’s dose is about the norm(again, for a BIG GUY). I do know of local athletes using as much as 40IU’s p day. Again, please note that the usage of insulin, should be left to the well-informed, advanced b/builder!
Maybe Kraz, you can do simple, comparative math here using weight ratios and come up with what you should use? Still not gonna tell you what I think you should use!!

Further on BB uses some Sustanon-250. Here he takes 1500mg over a period of 6 days – here, again I mentioned guys using more that that. He then goes over to Deca and uses about 1000mg over 8 days. Many larger athletes use dosages of 300-700mg of Deca per week and at longer cycles. So, BB’s dosage is about average. What I don’t understand, is that he does not support this part of his cycle with D-dol or Tren or any Testosterone. Deca stacks well with D-bol for mass, but Deca in high enough dosages stacked with Equi, Tren and Anavar, is excellent for shredding fat and keeping lean body mass the same time. He uses Sustanon, which is a mixture of short/medium/long acting esters , the last dosage being on day 52 and the next Testosterone dosage is only on Day35 – 17 days without Testosterone support?

His HGH dosage is about average. He starts off with 6IU’s per day, split in three even doses. He then increases the dose as he gets closer to the contest day. Note, that he stops the HGH 6 days out from D-Day. HGH is known to lead to some water retention – the norm is to stop this at least 10 days from comp day. It is not mentioned when he uses his HGH during the day – I can just think that it will be at intervals not too close to his Insulin injection. I know of some local and overseas athletes that use much more HGH per day – some as high as 20IU’s pd… BB’s dosage of R-3 IGF-1 at 60mcg pd is about average. The norm here is in the region of 60-80mcgs pd.

Let’s have a look at what happens from day 35. He starts using Test-enanthate at 600mg once a week – again, about average. He adds in Equipoise at a dose of 300mg per week. The average here is 300-700mg per week. So, his dosage is about average..
He adds in orals, Anavar being the first. BB’s dose is 50mg pd – here again the norm is 25-50mg per day – so, again he is using average dosages for his size. He adds into his cycle some Primo-mix, about 100mg, every 5-6 days. A very good choice, but again an average dose…

From day 20 he goes mainly oral, using equal amounts of Turniabol and Anavar. These are so close in effect, he could probably just as well have increased his Anavar…. This is a good move from the point of water retention and drug testing – going the oral way., but then he uses the enanthate and Equi close to the comp day…which, for drug testing, again does not make sense?


Now, there are a couple of things BB does that, to me, does not make sense:
- he uses the short acting esters of D-bol, Tren and Testo-prop early on in his cycle, and the longer acting Test-enanthate right up to D-Day. There is no Tren during his last 6 weeks, neither Testo-prop nor Test-suspension.
- He uses his Sustanon in the middle of his cycle – it is a good choice to use when starting a cycle, as the prop-ester kicks in quickly and the others carry through – 10 days later levels are well raised to continue with cypionate or enanthate further alone.
- He also uses Deca in the middle of his cycle – for only 8 days? If he is worried for drug testing, he should not use it at all, but if he is not, why not stack it early on with the D-bol, or even continue with it right through?
- Take note that he uses compounds during the last 6 weeks that are high anabolic, but low androgenic, like Anavar, Turniabol, Winstrol, Primo and Equi. These don’t aromatize easily and water retention with these will be low, but then he adds in Testo-enanthate that does the opposite. Why not use Tren then? Tren is 5 x more anabolic and 5 x more androgenic than Testosterone, has very little to none aromatizing and little water retention??

What would I personally have changed on this cycle if it were mine?
Firstly, I would have started the cycle with Sustanon, as to get serum testosterone levels up high in a short period of time. By day 10 I would give the first dose of testo-enanthate. Anything from 6 weeks out, depending on availability, I would start to use Testo-prop and stop the testo-enanthate. If testo-prop is not easily available, I will definitely stop enathate and use the testo-prop at least the last 2 weeks out from competition.

Secondly, I would probably start with Deca and Equi earlier on, as these stack well with D-bol for size.

Thirdly, I would opt to use the Tren definitely during my last 6 weeks, stacked with Winstol injectable + oral, Anavar and possibly Primo.

I would also opt to take pioglitazone rather than Glucophage, as pioglitazone at a dosage of 7,5-15mg per day, is much more effective than metformin and much less prone to metformin-induced hypoglycaemia.

I’m no expert in designing cycles, but the above is what I feel could be changed to deliver a more effective outcome. If any of you, MXT and friends, feel to differ, please comment and supply reasons why – this way we all learn.

Just one last little thing. Can anyone please enlighten me on what Liquidex is? I probably know its contents by another name…

By the end of it, I must say - quite an interesting cycle! By no means that extreme for a seasoned, advanced body builder. This cycle is definitely a no-no for beginners…

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24 Jan 2008 18:16 #709 by Doctari
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No one want to comment? I can take critisism....

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25 Jan 2008 08:40 #712 by Netro
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I can't even find a spelling mistake :laugh:

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25 Jan 2008 08:42 #713 by Netro
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Oh Yes, I too have e-books and loads as well.
Also have some avi's and dvd's.
Maybe admin can setup and ftp with the same domain name he has here and grant some user access for uploaders and then for the downloaders as well. If this can be done pls keep the ports standard (23) as I am not going to be uplaoding from home, but from work and our network is as tight as a nuns ..... ja well you can gues that one :P

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25 Jan 2008 08:50 #714 by Mr K
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Sorry I started reading it and ran out of time... Will finish it today.

From what ive read so far I agree with you. Initally when you read what he has to say I though "wow thats a lot" I also read the first book a long time ago when my idea's of big cycles are small compared to others. I was actually thinking about this article in the shower hahahaha and thought. Remeber when QV tren 75mg was R1800 for 10ml. Only the elite would use it. Guys who seriously competed. THat stuff was potent. Look at when the French made those amps of 76mg the pharma grade ones , cost and arm and a leg. Guy would at most use 75mg ever second day. Get mind blowing resluts from it. Now day I here guys using 300mg a week to start with. Granted they are using longer acting esters but still.... Either quality has gone down or guys have become more excessive in the last 5 years.

I find the cycles to be complex , rather keep a simple approach with 2 compunds to start. No secerets or magic combo's

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25 Jan 2008 19:03 #724 by kraz
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Quote from the Author himself regarding dosages:

"I realize some may feel that the dosages listed in any example thus far were
low. There were individuals who I knew that introduced as much as 3000 mg (even
6000 mg) of AAS alone weekly. Just because it was done, did not make it right... or
necessary."

Very well put together Doctari. I will read some more on the subject and try to shed some light on some of the points that you made :)

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26 Jan 2008 00:02 #727 by Doctari
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About dosages in general - and this is why I will abstain from suggesting specific dosages to individuals on this site. They are highly individualised. I have seen guys use 800mg of Test a week and GROW, then on the next cycle the same guy uses 2,5 GRAM PER WEEK - AND GAIN THE SAME AMOUNT OF WEIGHT THAN ON 800MG P WEEK. Why? Do not know. Maybe has to do with having only so much anabolic/androgenic receptors and no more, or having them fully saturated and no milligram you inject more will make a difference.... Then you get the lucky bastard that just holds the bottle of Testosterone in his hand, and he starts growing already! Awh, I can only envy them!

What I like about Beastie Boy's cycle, is the timing of his insulin use during his cycle. Very well planned. Insulin during your last 6 weeks can make or break you. Use it, or just use a couple of units too much, and you not gonna get rid of that fat. Also, insulin helps when you are in your calory defeceite part of your diet, as it utilizes your substate intake better. When using Metformin and ANY insuline in general, be careful not to continue taking your normal calory intake - you'll get fat. Cut back on your calories and check your BF% closely. If the latter increases, you are either eating too much still, or you are using too many units of insulin.

Again, insulin IS NOT FOR THE NOVICE B/BUILDER - it should only be used by seasoned, advanved b/builders who know their stuff!!

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26 Jan 2008 00:10 #728 by Doctari
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Ah man! I'm getting old or either lacking a bit Testosterone/DHEA. Keep on forgetting to comment on this. There is a school of belief, that changing compounds around a lot during your cycle, hits different receptors and optimizes growth. Any thoughts from you guys on this? I have not thusfar come across any scientific studies that confirm this or even postulates such. This was the first thing that went through my mind when I read Beastie Boy's cycle - he must be one of those dudes that believe in this method. I know staying too long on, especially orals, "blunts off" the receptors and some degree of receptor down regulation follows. But changing your components of your cycle around as much as this individual did in his cycle? I think he exposed himself on too short bursts of certain good components...

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04 Feb 2008 17:56 #878 by Doctari
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Sat down this weekend and read non-stop for 12 hours, every word, cover to cover of the CME II.
I understood every word and concept - definitely a couple of stategies that I'm going to change. Most of the answers I was still looking for, I have found, explained in the termonology I prefer.
Sitting back and reviewing some cycles for 3-4 times over and over, a lot of things this guys says and does, makes sense.
And, looking at the doses he uses in his cycles, they are much less than what most SA B/Builders use, but his Phase Layering, in my opinion, is where I think his success lies in. The way that he plans and controls Cortisol, I think is what makes the big difference. A lot of things I read, I have been contemplating about changing in my cycles the last year..
Now he has provided me the strategies to do so...

Will sit and think a bit more, planned my first Multi Phase Layered Cycle of 60 days with specific Phase Training Cycles attatched - will get back to you with my results.

Now, If any of you dudes ask me about this, I will have to comment - go read the %#$@& book! Will only comment AFTER I have tried some of these strategies!

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17 Feb 2008 20:32 #1138 by Batman
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Liquidex is Arimidex ,, sold in a liquid form so that it can be sold as a "research chemical"

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18 Feb 2008 17:27 #1157 by Doctari
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Thanks, kind of found it out in the meanwhile - comes in 1mg/ml. Supposedly cheaper than the oral. I think it is just a question of time before "resourceful" individuals catch on and start supplying it locally at much better prices... notch, notch, wink, wink... ya know what I mean?

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18 Feb 2008 20:42 #1167 by Batman
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There is a well priced version of the tabs by BD, but anything that is available from the pharmacy, I would rather buy from the pharmacy, regardless of the price,,

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