Boks test positive for doping

Two springboks (Bjorn Basson and Chiliboy Ralepelle) tested positive for the forbidden stimulant methylhexaneamine. What is this? I have never heard of it, but then, I am not that clued up...

www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/BoksOnTour/Boks-...ope-scandal-20101116

Uses
Although intended by Eli Lilly to be used as a nasal decongestant, methylhexaneamine has been marketed by certain companies as a dietary supplement in combination with caffeine and other ingredients, under trade names such as Geranamine and Floradrene, to be used as an OTC thermogenic or general purpose stimulant. Methylhexaneamine itself has not been studied intensively and its pharmacological profile has not been evaluated since Eli Lilly filed its patent in 1944, stating that the stimulant effects on the CNS are less than that of the related compounds amphetamine and ephedrine.[5]

Methylhexaneamine is not FDA approved in its own right, although it is a component of geranium oil which is approved for use in foods, and so this has been used to justify claims that it should be classified as a dietary supplement rather than a pharmaceutical product. It is technically correct to say that methylhexaneamine is a dietary supplement, as it is a component of the oil from Pelargonium graveolens, which is approved for use in food. Methylhexaneamine has been demonstrated to comprise 0.66 - 1% of geranium oil,[6] a similar compound to plant ratio as many other commonly available herbs. With this being said, even pure synthetic methylhexaneamine is compliant under FDA law, and the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) in particular, as it allows for the synthesis of compounds which were originally found in commonly-known food sources. This law allows for compounds such as Vitamin C, originally stemming from citrus fruits, to be synthesized almost exclusively and still be compliant.

Like all stimulants, methylhexaneamine carries a risk. Abusing any stimulant can have serious side effects and it is important to follow the proper dosing instructions and care must be taken to not abuse this substance past the recommended doses in products.

[edit] Use as a recreational drug
In New Zealand, methylhexanamine (under the name 1,3-dimethylamylamine or DMAA) is an emerging active ingredient of party pills [7], where it has replaced benzylpiperazine or BZP which has been illegal in that country since 2008. Serious adverse effects including headache, nausea, and stroke have been reported in recreational users of these products.[8] In November 2009, the New Zealand government indicated that methylhexanamine would be scheduled as a restricted substance. Listing a drug as a restricted substance in New Zealand means it would be illegal to:[9]

Sell or supply methylhexanamine to anyone under 18
Advertise methylhexanamine in the media
Offer methylhexanamine as a gift or reward
Sell or supply methylhexanamine from premises where alcohol is sold or from service stations
Sell methylhexanamine from any premises where children or minors gather
[edit] Doping in sports
In 2009, the World Anti-Doping Agency added methylhexanamine to the 2010 prohibited list.[10]

Methylhexanamine was implicated as a stimulant used by five Jamaican athletes in 2009. JADCO, the Jamaican anti-doping panel, was initially unable to determine whether it was prohibited by the rules,[11] but subsequently decided to impose sanctions on some of the affected athletes on the grounds that the drug was similar in structure to the banned substance tuaminoheptane.[12]

During the 2010 Commonwealth Games, Nigerian athlete Damola Osayemi was stripped of her gold medal in the 100m after methylhexanamine was detected during drug testing.[13] Subsequently, another Nigerian athlete, Samuel Okon, who finished sixth in the 110m hurdles, also tested positive for the drug.[14]

In October 2010, two Portuguese cyclists - Rui Costa and his brother Mario - tested positive for the substance. The samples were taken during the Portuguese National Championships at the end of June.[15]

In October 2010, nine Australian athletes have been found by Australian Sports Anti-doping Authority to have tested positive for the substance. These players may include NRL and AFL players. [16]

In November 2010 two South African rugby union players, Chiliboy Ralepelle and Bjorn Basson, were found to have tested positive for the substance on their annual tour of the Northern Hemisphere, and were immediately sent home from the tour by the South African Rugby Union, although it is possible that the players may have ingested the substance inadvertently in the form of medication for flu symptoms.[17]

Quoted from wikipedia

Sjo, wikipedia is up to date!
Is this then the same thing that was discussed a week or so ago of the schoolboy rugby dude that got banned for 3 months? The stimulant in pre workout shakes?

Thank goodness Chili can no longer screw things up. Hopefully Snorre will now send one of the 4 guys better than him.
Sad for Bjorn Basson. Has much rugby to offer.
Now please.... let something happen to Jean de Villiers.

Please don't refer to them as Boks rather as Blue Bulls and what do you expect from the bulls, LOL

It's fine I'm happy that Mvovo can now hop onto wing

This is fantastic news, now the website traffic will increase.

for 1 guy to get caught = mistake, 2 guys to get caught in the same team at the same time,very unlikely that it was a mistake,espicially when the team doctors know exactly whats on the banned substances list and which products team members can take....i smell a rat and i think that this wasn't a fluke occurrence

Yup, however isn't this substance supposed to only be banned end of the year? Also I love the way prior to tour they clean then on tour they not. Its a similar story to that of the Bigger Stronger Faster movie.

If i was a springbok and i wanted to take something it would only be Growth Hormone.I mean it's very expensive but if you are a springbok then the money you'll be paying per month for HGH will be peanuts.

I wanted to start this topic two days ago already but I was just too lazy.

Are there any examples of products that contain this stimulant?

Yes many. Nazal decongestant. They had some flu there. I dont think it was deliberate.

vega5 wrote: I wanted to start this topic two days ago already but I was just too lazy.

Are there any examples of products that contain this stimulant?

Jack3d and also that new product of Evox (not sure what its called). I know these 2 products contain 1,3 dymethalemine ........

And this is the same ingredient that was tested positive on a few athletes at the olympics this year

Its 1,3-dimethylamylamine or germanium oil extract (spelling)

Jack3d, code red and lots of other pre workouts use this product

Thing is, in the one interview (can't remember who) the one guy said that all the supps get tested first before the players use them

Sting wrote: Thing is, in the one interview (can't remember who) the one guy said that all the supps get tested first before the players use them

Yes, I heard that interview as well.

I think that it is fucking bullshit that a fucking stimulant in a supplement or cough mixture could get someone sent home just like that. Those poeople that make theese rules should get a pole shoved up their ass and fuck off. I mean what the hell is a stimulant going to give you as a performance enhancement. If they tested + for something like deca or d-bol or something common like that then yes i can understand the sending home of two of our boks.But not for inadvertantly taking a supplement or cough mixure that will just help them to get better.

Personally i dont think the rugby players get tested frequently. If that was the case i think lots will be knee deep in shit. The club rugby scene is full of youngsters fueled on shit like dbol

I don't want to be funny but I'm currently using Jack3d and I can kind of see why it’s banned. It gives me more strength gain than steroids so it’s kind of debateable. But I still feel if the Anti Doping people carry on like this then after a while almost everything will be banned.

vega5 wrote: I don't want to be funny but I'm currently using Jack3d and I can kind of see why it’s banned. It gives me more strength gain than steroids so it’s kind of debateable. But I still feel if the Anti Doping people carry on like this then after a while almost everything will be banned.

Sorry i also don't mean to be funny but what is jack3d anyway?

Isin't it a supplement?

Pumped wrote:

vega5 wrote: I don't want to be funny but I'm currently using Jack3d and I can kind of see why it’s banned. It gives me more strength gain than steroids so it’s kind of debateable. But I still feel if the Anti Doping people carry on like this then after a while almost everything will be banned.

Sorry i also don't mean to be funny but what is jack3d anyway?

Isin't it a supplement?

It is a supplement, pre-workout to be exact.

What manufactorer makes it ?

Pumped go get some jack3d and you will see why they got sent home :lol:

Well I can't prove anything but I am more than certain those players are on gear, maybe not year round but the off season a short acting substance that is cleared out of the body. I just don't see how people can be that size and train that hard without being on something

00pump wrote: Well I can't prove anything but I am more than certain those players are on gear, maybe not year round but the off season a short acting substance that is cleared out of the body. I just don't see how people can be that size and train that hard without being on something

Thats absurd! Those okes are on a diet of love and fresh air :evil: