RICA Bullshit!

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27 Oct 2010 03:26 #53995 by admin
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As South Africans, we don't always keep up with new laws and new amendments to the constitution. For those who do not know, the Constitution of South Africa has been amended 16 times already. Have you read any of our Acts or Bills?

The next question would be: Have you heard of the Regulation of Interception of Communications and Provision of Communication-related Information Act 70 of 2002 (RICA)? Well, the fundamentals of this law is that each SIM card, whether that card is for prepaid, contract or data use, must be registered against your name and identification. To find out more about this act without having to actually read the act, you can read Cell Phone SIM Cards and RICA.

The purpose of RICA, which came into effect on 1 July 2009, is "to regulate the interception of certain communications, the monitoring of certain signals and radio frequency spectrums and the provision of certain communication-related information." The two troubling words here are "interception" and "monitoring."

The apparent reason for this act is to assist in fighting crime. Criminals use cell phones to commit crime, and so the government wants to be able to listen into cell phone connections in order to find out where such crimes will be committed. So, the theory behind this act is that criminals will no longer be able to use cell phones to assist in their dastardly crimes. The question is how the government will be able to know whose conversations to listen to. Will they have a suspicion about a person, and then listen into his conversations? How does this help if by the time of the suspicion, the incriminating conversation is already finished, and the planning of the crime already concluded? That is too late! What if the suspicion is wrong, and a person's privacy has been violated?

The effectiveness of this law can only be guaranteed if all calls are monitored and certain keywords are used to intercept specific conversations. However, that will be a blanket violation of all citizens' privacy rights. In fact, I wonder how the government will ensure that our constitutional rights aren't violated in this regard. Section 14 of the constitution, dealing with privacy, says the following:


14. Privacy
Everyone has the right to privacy, which includes the right not to have
a. their person or home searched;
b. their property searched;
c. their possessions seized; or
d. the privacy of their communications infringed.


Any law, including RICA, is subservient to the constitution, therefore, if RICA violates point 'd' then this law will have to be amended or even scrapped.

Having said all this, how effective will this law be? The Abortion Nepotism and Corruption party, ANC, has a very sorry track record when it comes to fighting crime. In fact, it does not seem like they are serious about fighting crime at all. The fact that the police is ridiculously under-funded, and in many places they do not even have enough vehicles for fighting crime points to the government's flippant attitude towards the crime problem in this country. Also, the fact that it has become so much more difficult to continue owning personal firearms, never mind purchasing new firearms, perhaps points to a more sinister reason for disarming law abiding citizens! Citizens without the capability of actually defending themselves against gun-wileding criminals are simply open targets for criminals. The reality of the situation is that criminals will not bother registering their weapons, since they are criminals, and as a result no law will stop them from having weapons.

We already have enough laws against crime. These laws are not applied! A law that is not enforced is no law at all! Laws have meaning when they enforced. If our crime laws were actually enforced, silly laws like RICA would not be needed! In fact, based on what we already know about South African law enforcement, my guess is that RICA will amopunt to nothing. Most probably, RICA will get challenged in the Constitutional Court sooner or later.

Lastly, I do not trust this government at all They have proven to be unreliable in how they treat its own citizens. They ignored the voice of the people with regards to abortion, pornography and same-sex marriage, and legalized them all. The people overwhelmingly stood against these heinous evils by a great majority, yet the governnment legalized them anyhow. The ANC cannot be trusted, and with regards RICA, and the technology at hand, our constitutional privacy will soon come to an end!

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27 Oct 2010 03:30 #53996 by admin
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The above is a nice article I found and a real concern to our privacy.

makes for a nice headline: “For every 10 minutes spent standing in line to register your SIM card, 3 people are being killed.”


We are basically forced to register or our right to communication is removed.

Luckily most homeless people are willing to register a SIM pretty quickly when they are given R100...

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27 Oct 2010 06:17 #53999 by Deadgoat
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The one thing that I love about this country is that you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as it doesn't infringe the rights of others (criminals excluded obviously), it seems as though those days are numbered.

While everyone is being distracted by that clown Julius it seems as though we're being turned into the US right before our very eyes. Pretty soon we'll get random home invasions for the sake of "national security"

Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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27 Oct 2010 07:08 #54002 by Fakey_AK
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Yeah but in the U.S. they have prepaid cellphones that u can buy and toss. NO RICA.

Here they wanna know everything.

MY bank account was frozen last week because a large sum was paid in. When i ask why, they said i had to FICA my bank account!

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27 Oct 2010 07:17 #54007 by Wayne
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what can we do? I say we get a nice piece of land, and start our own country!

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27 Oct 2010 07:41 #54011 by Mr_SA
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Country of Gear Users and Body Builders.... No one would dare enter.... mmmmm
Admin... Dont you wanna buy us a spot on Mars...

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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27 Oct 2010 07:43 #54013 by Deadgoat
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Fakey_AK wrote: Yeah but in the U.S. they have prepaid cellphones that u can buy and toss. NO RICA.

Here they wanna know everything.

MY bank account was frozen last week because a large sum was paid in. When i ask why, they said i had to FICA my bank account!


As annoying as that may have been its justified on their part, if you get a million bucks deposited into your account you have to justify how you got that money

Wayne I stand fully behind that plan, and on behalf of the Republic of Gym Monkeys are vote myself in as President for Life :laugh:

Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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27 Oct 2010 20:00 #54083 by CHAPEL
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Dead you are so full of shit hahaha i come on the forum to get my daily laughs from your comments.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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27 Oct 2010 20:18 #54085 by Deadgoat
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CHAPEL wrote: Dead you are so full of shit hahaha i come on the forum to get my daily laughs from your comments.


Looks like I'm off to a good start, the people are happy with my service delivery

Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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