General debate on Gyno

Hi

This is an article writen by a user called Magic from steroid.com forum, I would just like to debate this and see if anyone has a different point of view on this

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I'm sorry fellas, but body fat amount has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with gyno! Fatty breasts whether on men or women are just that, and nothing more. Consequently, they rise and fall in correlation to overall body fat, unlike gyno.

Gyno, is NOT fatty tissue. As clearly shown in mammography/ultrasonography film and in post op glandular removal pics, it is firm, tender or non-tender LITERAL breast tissue development. NOR IS THERE ANY COORELATION BETWEEN BODY FAT AND GYNO OR GETTING GYNO!

Regardless of what you hear parroted on different boards, gyno is the physical result of how well or poorly (depending on your perspective) your body deals (based mostly on genetic predisposition) with a change in the very delicate Test-Estro ratio. Most bodies manage it quite well, other’s are more sensitive and do so poorly, while still others handle it very poorly. But regardless of gyno’s cause, i.e. pubertal, various medicine side effects, exposure to ratio changing elements whether internally consumed or topically administrated oils, e.g. lavender, tea tree, etc., containing products that are absorbed transdermally, or idiopathic (of unknown origin) numerous studies conclusively demonstrate that gyno is best combatted via a modest course of Nolvadex. Some studies have used it singularly, others have run it concurrently or sequentially with Letro, or various gyno impacting DHTs.

Note: In my studies I came across one New England Journal of Medicine publication where 3 boys nowhere near puberty (ages 4, 10 & 7) got it from shampoos and lotions. The little guy’s ratio balance was so slightly off that his test-estro measures were still in range, and one of the others only had elevated Test, not estro which was still enough to throw off this balance.
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...064725#article

Nevertheless, the most important common denominator is unfortunately most often overlooked…DURATION! You have to let the drug work! Don’t set a pre-designated course such as 1mth, or even two, it’s usually 3-5mths sometimes 6 and I’ve even seen 11. These drugs are preferred by the receptor site, and operate by effectively starving the newly formed breast tissue of its nourishing estrogen supply until it can simply no longer sustain itself, resulting in a breakdown and re-absorption into the body. Similarly, have you ever seen a marathoner approach the finish and utterly collapse several yards from it. At that point they literally have NO more calories to burn and their bodies can no longer support locomotion or even stand…same principle.

“Yes”, it’s best to remove/discontinue any known causes.
“No”, it’s not necessarily vital that they are removed, i.e. discontinuing a cycle. Even though gyno has been initiated, i.e. the ratio imbalance, and development of tissue, the receptors can still be starved during cycle definitely inciting gyno arrest and even reversal while on.

The other often overlooked factor in gyno therapy is CONTINUED duration. Remember the doctor’s orders when prescribing antibiotics? “Take the full bottle, don’t discontinue usage when the symptoms disappear.” In that same vein, always, always, always, run your gyno therapy a couple of weeks past full symptom resolution. You’re not treating the symptoms, you’re treating the problem. Just as we use Test to outrun Nors, go at LEAST two extra weeks.

And before you ask, “no” I don’t have my research here, it’s on my hard drive, but I’ll post it when I get a chance. Or you can look up some of my gyno-related posts where I documented study results (drugs, dosages & durations). I just get tired of seeing parroted misinformation about this topic and wanted to take a few minutes to write this post. I’m working on a comprehensive A-Z sticky, but can’t seem to make time to finish it…for that I apologize. But remember this:

POOR: A-dex (it simply isn’t potent enough to do this particular job VERY WELL)
GOOD: Mase
BETTER: Letro
BEST: Nolva

And contrary to popular belief these remedies are static and unconcerned with prolac, progest, or other estroidal-related origins. Again the TRUE CAUSE is the imbalance and not the reason for it. I'll also try to locate the flow diagram that graphically illustrates how the various ancillary estrogen hormones are contributing facilitators, but not primary causes.

Best to you.

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