How long have you been on the juice?

Hi just for interest sake how long have you guys been using in total?

I am in my 5th year now and just wondering when will be a good time to retire the needle.

superbeast2 wrote: Hi just for interest sake how long have you guys been using in total?

I am in my 5th year now and just wondering when will be a good time to retire the needle.

Is this now 5 years without a break?

superbeast2 wrote: Hi just for interest sake how long have you guys been using in total?

I am in my 5th year now and just wondering when will be a good time to retire the needle.

When you reach your goal?

Good question superbeast2!

We all know the worst side effects from juice, comes from long term use.
AND... BB'rs are never happy enough with their results, always wanting to improve

So where do you draw the line?

Well, to be honest, I doubt one should ever stop. Yes we need to wise up but stop? don't think so.

It is proven low doses of testosterone causes heart problems and a list of other health issues. So i guess I'm going to be pinning till the day I die.

N3rd, you're so right.

I think you just need to have a defined goal when embarking on this journey of steroid use. Like I just want to look sharp at a decent weight and that works for me.

no :laugh: not 5 years on non stop. I have probably done 10 cycles more or less. Started as 80 kgs and at my heaviest I was 117kg. These days I cruise around the 100 mark but I keep my bodyfat low.

I recently discovered a bit of gyno and I am seriously considering giving up the needle.

superbeast2 wrote: no :laugh: not 5 years on non stop. I have probably done 10 cycles more or less. Started as 80 kgs and at my heaviest I was 117kg. These days I cruise around the 100 mark but I keep my bodyfat low.

I recently discovered a bit of gyno and I am seriously considering giving up the needle.

Shoo, just give more time between cycles. I also had freaking sore nipples on this current cycle already after the second week but I just got on Adex + Kessar for two weeks and then moved onto Letro and it’s gone.

It’s all about clever estrogen suppression.

I agree with pump, I'll be on juice forever but i'm finally at the stage where i'm going to experiment with shorter cycles and diffirent compounds.

00pump wrote: Well, to be honest, I doubt one should ever stop. Yes we need to wise up but stop? don't think so.

It is proven low doses of testosterone causes heart problems and a list of other health issues. So i guess I'm going to be pinning till the day I die.

"Supplementation" is the way to go. When you are older that is. Or when your test levels are below 50% of the normal range.

Superbeast2 i know what you mean bra you gym hard almost everyday and see slow results and aren't satisfied with them yourself so you don't actually feel any different about your self .I know what you mean when i stated gym i needed to gym i was so thin that my muscles were not holding my body together in symmetry my back was bending over and i was one sided.I stated gym and hated it ,and over the last 4 years i have gained 33kg's in total since i stated gym and [now i love the gym , it sets my mind free and you feel great afterwords]and that is mostly muscle.But the strange thing is i don't feel any different about myself than i did a year ago .Even now with my Roid use a 14 week course of 375mg's per week of test E and 40mg's per day of D-bol front loading for 21 days i still feel no different people are saying hey you are getting bigger ect. But i don't feel any more confident about myself on the inside ,even though i have gotten bigger, i guess i will be like 00pump jamming roids until the day i die. Oh and as for your gyno superbeast2 just take some letrozole and this should kill your gyno in no time, i had pretty bad water retention,bloating for my test E and i now take .2mg's per day of letro and it's working wonders an anti-estrogen is a must on any cycle.Oh ja and you should notice that on letro your nipples if you still have gyno will get smaller drastically in a short period of time.Hope this helps you bud. Keep on jamming.

The older you get the more you need to keep on pinning-low test is inevitable naturally. The day you can't get it up sober is the day to start trt imo.

schrim06 wrote: ......375mg's per week of test E and 40mg's per day of D-bol front loading for 21....... i had pretty bad water retention,bloating for my test E and i now take .2mg's per day of letro and it's working wonders an anti-estrogen .....

Holy Mackeral. 375mg hardly makes my nipple hard in the cold.

schrim06 wrote: Superbeast2 i know what you mean bra you gym hard almost everyday and see slow results and aren't satisfied with them yourself so you don't actually feel any different about your self .I know what you mean when i stated gym i needed to gym i was so thin that my muscles were not holding my body together in symmetry my back was bending over and i was one sided.I stated gym and hated it ,and over the last 4 years i have gained 33kg's in total since i stated gym and [now i love the gym , it sets my mind free and you feel great afterwords]and that is mostly muscle.But the strange thing is i don't feel any different about myself than i did a year ago .Even now with my Roid use a 14 week course of 375mg's per week of test E and 40mg's per day of D-bol front loading for 21 days i still feel no different people are saying hey you are getting bigger ect. But i don't feel any more confident about myself on the inside ,even though i have gotten bigger, i guess i will be like 00pump jamming roids until the day i die. Oh and as for your gyno superbeast2 just take some letrozole and this should kill your gyno in no time, i had pretty bad water retention,bloating for my test E and i now take .2mg's per day of letro and it's working wonders an anti-estrogen is a must on any cycle.Oh ja and you should notice that on letro your nipples if you still have gyno will get smaller drastically in a short period of time.Hope this helps you bud. Keep on jamming.

i think this is the 5th thread that u have told everyone your cycle!

DJ you are very observant lol...

DJ wrote:

schrim06 wrote: Superbeast2 i know what you mean bra you gym hard almost everyday and see slow results and aren't satisfied with them yourself so you don't actually feel any different about your self .I know what you mean when i stated gym i needed to gym i was so thin that my muscles were not holding my body together in symmetry my back was bending over and i was one sided.I stated gym and hated it ,and over the last 4 years i have gained 33kg's in total since i stated gym and [now i love the gym , it sets my mind free and you feel great afterwords]and that is mostly muscle.But the strange thing is i don't feel any different about myself than i did a year ago .Even now with my Roid use a 14 week course of 375mg's per week of test E and 40mg's per day of D-bol front loading for 21 days i still feel no different people are saying hey you are getting bigger ect. But i don't feel any more confident about myself on the inside ,even though i have gotten bigger, i guess i will be like 00pump jamming roids until the day i die. Oh and as for your gyno superbeast2 just take some letrozole and this should kill your gyno in no time, i had pretty bad water retention,bloating for my test E and i now take .2mg's per day of letro and it's working wonders an anti-estrogen is a must on any cycle.Oh ja and you should notice that on letro your nipples if you still have gyno will get smaller drastically in a short period of time.Hope this helps you bud. Keep on jamming.

i think this is the 5th thread that u have told everyone your cycle!

OMG. . . Way to early for this. :sick: 5th Thread and counting. I quite liked the dialog though, the use of the word "stated" was astronomical, you have to be a special kind of something to be able to repeat that 3 times in the wrong context.

But anyway, back to topic. On paper, what is the "safe" route to take? If one were to carry on pinning until pension, how would he do it, to keep a healthy physique and all round life-style? Without over doing it. Would you plateau on a dosage?

DY,BLEEDING EYES just keep your comment's to yourself , i was commenting on my little bit of Gyno and how to combat it with what i'm taking , you guys should be great full that i post my personal shit on this forum.First hand advise is better than some asshole just saying shit.No offense thou.

actually u just did offend me. you come in here after 1 cycle acting like u know everything,u actually know fuck all,go play in the school yard with all the little school girls you act like! jees,for fuck sakes,there are alot of people here who have a lot more first world experience u little cunt! u think you know something about steroids,u are 18,i bet u right now there are memebers on this forum who have been using and researching steroids since u where in bagdad.fuck off back to your little play ground and actually realise that 50hours of reading is actually fuck all in this game,there are guru's out there that train the top pros that have forgotten more than u will ever learn...now go play in traffic u fucking little ass clown!

sho, vat so!!!! :laugh:

*whistles*

:ohmy: ouch!!

I am really surprised he stayed this long. DJ are you on the tren mate or did you just hold it in like everyone else and just let go.

Hoohaa the DJ:)

i am clean at the moment dude,i just cant handle little fuckers that think they know something after 1-2days,he is an ass clown and needs to fuck off and come back when his attitude isnt all about himself... at the end of the day we are all here to learn,and i am not saying that i know more than anyone else here,but at the end of the day i sit back,i read,i help where i can,i learn and apply that knowledge,he has just read a couple of posts online about certain things and its kids like him who are going to fuck themselves up and blame steroids instead of their own stupidity! its like that kid that died a couple years back,they said it was cos he was on DNP,the truth is he was giving himself a potassium drip,which he read online that some guys do before their shows,and well he died,yet people blame steroids or in this case dnp but in actual fact they should've blamed pure stupidity!

:blink: wow DJ this dude really pissed you off man cant blame you he did seem like a know it all. I see he is banned now he must have pissed admin off big time.

i banned him cos he is a rude little cunt.

Good one DJ , Shrimp was an irritating little fucker. Best banning I have ever seen on any forum before :laugh: