Needles and pins(sleeping arms)

Hi guys,

I am now starting week 5 of my Cycle . Test Cyp@ 500Mg /Week, D/Bol@ 20mg p/day, I have gained 5KG to date and I am 101Kg at the moment @16.1% Body fat( a little high I know) but all of it is tummy. My problem is that My arms go to sleep when I am sleeping and even when I sit with them above my head?? I also have incredible lower back pain(seeing Phisio) but no improvement,?
Any suggestions to help with the Needles and pins effect please?

Thanks

Beastie wrote:

Hi guys,

I am now starting week 5 of my Cycle . Test Cyp@ 500Mg /Week, D/Bol@ 20mg p/day, I have gained 5KG to date and I am 101Kg at the moment @16.1% Body fat( a little high I know) but all of it is tummy. My problem is that My arms go to sleep when I am sleeping and even when I sit with them above my head?? I also have incredible lower back pain(seeing Phisio) but no improvement,?
Any suggestions to help with the Needles and pins effect please?

Thanks

I know a number of people with this problem, but not sure about the cause. Maybe more cardiovascular "fitness" will help.

Are you still on the dbol,it causes massive lower back pumps in some which are very uncomfortable and painfull at times.the pins and needles can be the weightgain,I get bouts of it sometime on cycle but mainly cycles that retain water like deca etc

Will try and do some cardio to open up the Veins, the problem is with the cardio my back F@&*'s me up I can hardly walk for 2km then I have to sit?@ Geardup, Yeah, will Stop the D/bol after this week if the back does not stop my phisio is certain we will win it by the end of the week. Also noticed the Massive back pumps , I was thinking of taking some Muscle relaxers to see if it gets better got some COXFLAM form the doc but it does not help.

I thought that the arms growing this quickly might be the reason for the needles and pins, however when I am hot after a gym session my arms are fine it is when I cool down when it is bad?



Thanks :S

dunno about the back but i have exactly the same problem with the arms falling asleep whether im on or off cycle and know many many of my mates with the same. i went to see a doctor and it's supposedly actually your shoulder muscles pressing against (pinching) your nerves and veins haha! it can't be taken away completely but can dramatically be reduces with rotary cuff type excercises with light weight and a lot of stretching and obviously not holding your arms in that position... :laugh:
i was sceptical cos it sounded like bullshit to me but i also came accross an old archive article on bodybuilding.com regarding this and they say the same. (ill try get the url and post it!)
the exercises and stretching helped me alot but in certain positions my arms still just fall right asleep.
hope some of the older pros have more info on this topic!

Beastie wrote:

Will try and do some cardio to open up the Veins, the problem is with the cardio my back F@&*'s me up I can hardly walk for 2km then I have to sit?@ Geardup, Yeah, will Stop the D/bol after this week if the back does not stop my phisio is certain we will win it by the end of the week. Also noticed the Massive back pumps , I was thinking of taking some Muscle relaxers to see if it gets better got some COXFLAM form the doc but it does not help.

I thought that the arms growing this quickly might be the reason for the needles and pins, however when I am hot after a gym session my arms are fine it is when I cool down when it is bad?



Thanks :S

I am convinced the back pumps / cramps dbol related although its a low dose,recently experinced something similar couldn't walk around a lot or for that matter drive for more than 10min and I would need to stop and get out.

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I always sleep with my arms in the air lol go numb always AHHAHAHAH

Hey man, had the same problem. I was weighing over 110kg and quite overweight, I've dropped under a 100kg now and also a bit more fit and it seems to have gone a way. So maybe fitness or maybe we just not made to weigh over a certain weight naturally.

Don't want to start a thread on this, but I have this problem where I get a head rush when I get up to quickly some times to the point where I go completely blind? Anyone have this, went a way for years and now its come back, something to worry about?

Yes i have had that before, i found when i dont drink enough water it happens to me. i get up feels like im gonna pass out.

The needles/pins in extremeties and lower back aches are also sumptoms of heart disease. But it could also be any of the above.
Best you see your Doc. Test your BP - Dbol chases that up high.

Thanks jack, thats all my signs!!!

00pump wrote:

Thanks jack, thats all my signs!!!

HAHA! :laugh: You seem to be a clever guy and at least checking up on all these things so i doubt its anything that hectic. Maybe just some niggly pinched nerves etc.
I try to see the cardiologist every second year(everything has been om thus far - his recommendation is every 3).

had the same problem couple years back, was on dbol test cyp cycle and had bad pins and needles in the arms, after the cycle and after dropping some water and weight and upping the cardio... no problems