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04 Mar 2010 09:34 #38711 by spike
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Ok so I have never had any problems with BP, either in my first cycle (deca & Sus) or my previous one (Supertest & Equi), but last night i developed one moerse headache that just didnt respond to any pills... I eventually checked my BP and it was up to 155/100. Slept it off and today the headache is gone and BP has dropped, but still sitting on 150/90... It's always been in the 120/80 range. Im currently using Test prop 100mg EOD, and am goin on to Winnie tabs in a few days. This is all running up to my comp in 4 weeks.
Im rather concerned with the BP thing, especially considering I've been on for a total of 17 weeks so far (640mg supertest & 350mg equi week 1 - 15, 100mg test prop week 16-19, winstrol week 18-21, proviron week 20 & 21, currently on week 17)

Any suggestions to control BP?

Um, but im scared of needles...

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04 Mar 2010 10:30 #38722 by 00pump
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Please read my article on hypertension in the general section..

100 you are at severe risk of a heart attack, the 150 on your size frame is also way to high... over 90 is even at EXTREME danger levels 100 could mean a heart attack at any moment.

Please read the article quick then ask me anything else you need to know. Are you in Joburg if I remeber you in Durban? As I can get you some tea that will help for now but its very short acting and you need to drink a few cups a day, but i'm certain you will need BP medication. I'm very worried about that reading man... You reading allways drops at night so your morning reading is WAY to high after sleep.. Please bro you need to do something ASAP...

Are you taking an AI? If not i'd push letro up to 1mg right away that will help lower it.. if you have Bromo on hand take ASAP as that will also drop it, but if you don't you need medication. the tea will also drop you right away before the tabs reach a stable level.

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04 Mar 2010 10:40 #38726 by 00pump
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04 Mar 2010 10:55 #38729 by SNOK1986
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WOW hectic, but 15 weeks is a long time... i know all juice increases RBCs but doesnt equi increase RBCs by a shit load? could this cause the high blood pressure maybe?

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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04 Mar 2010 10:58 #38732 by 00pump
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SNOK1986 wrote:

WOW hectic, but 15 weeks is a long time... i know all juice increases RBCs but doesnt equi increase RBCs by a shit load? could this cause the high blood pressure maybe?


There is no scientific proof that EQ increases RBA more so than any other steroid. They just highlight on it, just like they focus more on Clomid for fertility and Nolva for breast cancer.

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04 Mar 2010 11:05 #38734 by SNOK1986
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Alright awesome...

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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04 Mar 2010 12:08 #38740 by spike
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I've read it. I do understand blood pressure pretty well due to my studies and job, just never felt its effects for myself.

My readings have steadily dropped, to about 140/90 (so upper limit of normal).

Not sure if the BP has caused this, as low BP normally has this effect, but been tired as hell this morning. Took my daughter to school then went back to bed and been drifting off all morning. Very drowsy and low energy

The only ancillary i have on me is Kessar, but will stop off at the pharmacist and see what i can get

Um, but im scared of needles...

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04 Mar 2010 12:25 #38743 by 00pump
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Ahh ok, well then you would know it would def kill your energy running so high.. Glad your BP is coming down, still don't like the 90 though. I do find a diuretic helps with my diastolic readings quite nicely. Kessar won't help at all and I actually find when on Kessar it increases my blood pressure even though when I did research its said the product shouldn't effect one blood pressure or the actual drug should not.

If it's estrogen related you need to get an AI in... the diuretic should help in the mean time... If you do need other drugs a good start would be Zartan 50 and then maybe move up to coaprovel if its not working. But as you know your kidneys are taking strain right now... Wouldn't suprise me if its the kidneys taking strain causing the BP.. Only way is a dip stick and see if you passing blood / protein.

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05 Mar 2010 08:34 #38787 by spike
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ok so i went to my gp yesterday to get everything checked out. Went thru my entire cycle with him so he knew what might be going on. He got a nice low bp reading when he checked and he also did urinalysis and was happy with that.

So he gave me a prescription for Lasix (diuretic) to take whenever the BP spikes, and suggested i could also run it at 2 tabs a day in my last week of prep to help drop water.

Anyone use before?

Checked my bp again last night and it was still /100 tho

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05 Mar 2010 08:46 #38790 by 00pump
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spike wrote:

ok so i went to my gp yesterday to get everything checked out. Went thru my entire cycle with him so he knew what might be going on. He got a nice low bp reading when he checked and he also did urinalysis and was happy with that.

So he gave me a prescription for Lasix (diuretic) to take whenever the BP spikes, and suggested i could also run it at 2 tabs a day in my last week of prep to help drop water.

Anyone use before?

Checked my bp again last night and it was still /100 tho


Dam man!!! I honestly want you to get this tea? I'll find the name and try find a chinese shop near you, I swear it will drop that 100 to around 60/70 for a short peroid of time... I wouldn't take that diuretic anywhere near the night or you going to be pissing every hour throughout the night :)

You not keen on running that duiretic for a few days straight? I know it took around 3-4 days for the duiretic to work on me.

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05 Mar 2010 08:51 #38793 by spike
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yeah i could run them for a few days over the weekend and see if it helps

Um, but im scared of needles...

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05 Mar 2010 08:52 #38794 by spike
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Honestly wouldnt mind getting rid of some of this water im holding anyway ;)

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05 Mar 2010 08:58 #38798 by Wayne
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Hey guys, just a little off topic, but I have a mate of mine that has never used juice before, I advised him on just takin a test but the problem is, he has high bp and is on medication for his bp for the last 2 or so years!! So would it be advisable for him to actually use some juice and what juice? And If you covered this in your hypertension article, PLEASE FORGIVE ME PUMP, I am feeling a little lazy to read thru it again....SORRY...

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05 Mar 2010 09:04 #38800 by 00pump
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Please read the FAQ thread www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/11-gene...152-faq-section-help

I wrote a list of drugs that can an shouldn't be used when suffering with high blood pressure / hypertension.

Question: What steroids to avoid when suffering from hypertension

Let me know if you have any questions

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05 Mar 2010 10:16 #38813 by Wayne
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Thanks Pump, So I should tell him to use Deca? but wat about Deca-dick? He is in his 30's so he was hoping for his willy to have some extra vooma...can he not maybe take like 100mg of test along with the deca? He wants to add some size, but leaner would be better then just pure bulk...What would you recommend that I tell him to use as a first time user, considering the fact that he takes BP medication?

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05 Mar 2010 10:19 #38814 by 00pump
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Well you can cycle EQ without test just fine... Thing is he can add test at a very low dose 200mg I don't notice much with regards to my BP... So maybe 400-600mg EQ + 200mg test..

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05 Mar 2010 11:05 #38816 by Wayne
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Thanks alot for the advice Pump, much appreciated!

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05 Mar 2010 20:03 #38861 by Lesa
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00pump wrote:

Please read my article on hypertension in the general section..

100 you are at severe risk of a heart attack, the 150 on your size frame is also way to high... over 90 is even at EXTREME danger levels 100 could mean a heart attack at any moment.

Please read the article quick then ask me anything else you need to know. Are you in Joburg if I remeber you in Durban? As I can get you some tea that will help for now but its very short acting and you need to drink a few cups a day, but i'm certain you will need BP medication. I'm very worried about that reading man... You reading allways drops at night so your morning reading is WAY to high after sleep.. Please bro you need to do something ASAP...

Are you taking an AI? If not i'd push letro up to 1mg right away that will help lower it.. if you have Bromo on hand take ASAP as that will also drop it, but if you don't you need medication. the tea will also drop you right away before the tabs reach a stable level.


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05 Mar 2010 20:13 #38864 by Lesa
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00pump wrote:

Well you can cycle EQ without test just fine... Thing is he can add test at a very low dose 200mg I don't notice much with regards to my BP... So maybe 400-600mg EQ + 200mg test..


You can run EQ cycle only with great results with only one shot of test per month for your libido and thats that. I ran 18 weeks EQ cycle with one testoviron shot every month and i had no issues in bed or anywhere else.

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05 Mar 2010 20:18 #38866 by 00pump
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Lower your estrogen levels, less complication on cycle, lower your bp

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05 Mar 2010 20:22 #38869 by 00pump
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Lesa wrote:

00pump wrote:

Well you can cycle EQ without test just fine... Thing is he can add test at a very low dose 200mg I don't notice much with regards to my BP... So maybe 400-600mg EQ + 200mg test..


You can run EQ cycle only with great results with only one shot of test per month for your libido and thats that. I ran 18 weeks EQ cycle with one testoviron shot every month and i had no issues in bed or anywhere else.


How was that cycle?

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06 Mar 2010 08:04 #38877 by jackrabbit1
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My BP goes up with sugar and salt. Suppose when the water goes up so does the BP, but the effect is almost immediate.
Steal the sweets and wham - head feels like popping.

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jack,u and keto are gonna be good friends then ;)

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06 Mar 2010 10:15 #38882 by Lesa
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00pump wrote:

Lesa wrote:

00pump wrote:

Well you can cycle EQ without test just fine... Thing is he can add test at a very low dose 200mg I don't notice much with regards to my BP... So maybe 400-600mg EQ + 200mg test..


You can run EQ cycle only with great results with only one shot of test per month for your libido and thats that. I ran 18 weeks EQ cycle with one testoviron shot every month and i had no issues in bed or anywhere else.


How was that cycle?


Pretty damn well I must be honest actually i will be doing the same thing for my next cycle pretty soon. The appetite increase from EQ made pack on real good quality mass. And the recovery was very very smooth.

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