PGW Trenbolone Acetate!! is it fake or bad batch?

got me some PGW tren.ace a while ago preparing for musclemania africa.
i'm really not happy with the results i got from it,i ran it for 4 weeks on it's own & it made me hold water!!! i mean WTF?? how can tren on it's own make me hold water? i don't know if that was just a bad batch or if it was even tren!
is there any1 else that uses pgw tren & not happy with the results?

They are pretty reliable, lots of factors can influence water retention

PGW is not faked at all, like Batman said, many factors that can influence water retention.

yeah batman i know they are reliable, i've used some of their other products with great success. that's why i'm so dissapointed in the qaulity of the tren.ace i got. lotsa factors can influence water retension but i was on a clean contest diet and not using anything else.
wonder where the water came from hey?

how can you run it on its own?

When cycleing 19-nor steroids it is best to follow these certain rules so you do not get undesired side effects. It is very importan that you follow all of these rules i have listed . The two main 19-nors i am talking about are steroids in the trenbolone family and the nandrolone family. Heres a list of rules .

-Never combine nandrolone and trenboone in the same cycle.
-Never use a 19-nor as a stand alone cycle. This will destroy your endocrine system.
-When cycling with a 19-nor dont use nolvedex as your choice or anti-estrogen.
-Use hcg during cycle due to the high natural test suppresion.
-Nevr use a higher 19-nor dosage than your test base.
-when cycleing prefebly end the 19-nor a few weeks before ending your test.
-alswys stack witha test base.
-If your a sanctioned athlete be careful as most 19-nors do have long detections times

few guys added to say these "rules" are accurate

testoboy wrote:

yeah batman i know they are reliable, i've used some of their other products with great success. that's why i'm so dissapointed in the qaulity of the tren.ace i got. lotsa factors can influence water retension but i was on a clean contest diet and not using anything else.
wonder where the water came from hey?

sodium can play a big part in retaining water under the skin,creatine can do the same aswell... u gotta look at those factors as well as anything else...i have never heard anything other than great reviews from the pgw tren,acetate or enanthate,i know guys that have taken other brands of tren and never experienced a tren cough yet when they swopped to the pgw tren instantly they started with the tight chest within 5 mins of the injection... the stuff is potent and its the only brand i use...they get my vote of confidence for every cycle that i do and will never doubt their products.... u must be one of the few people around that may experience from water retention on this product...i guess water retention is like gyno,some people get it and some dont...