Sore Kidneys

Hi guys,

I just want to ask how would I know if my kidneys are affected by the gear if at all. I know it takes a toll on your liver when using orals. My kidneys feel sensitive and swolen. Not sure how long its been like that but got worse the last 2 days. What is the protocol?

Some background

112kg
Bf 13%
1.87

Currently running
750mg test e p/w
400mg Masteron p/w
40mg Dianabol (before gym)

My urine is mostly clear and drink 4-6l water.

Any advise?

Protein intake about 290g per day

Which side of your kidneys?
Are you sure you mistakenly taking it as back pumps. Dianabol tends to do this to same guys.

Best would drop the dbol for now. Or drop the dose to 30mg. And see if that helps. If not.
Space out your dbol dose through out the day and not one time before gym. 20/20 (20/10/10) etc
4-4.5liters max 5liters a day. I would say.

I personally kill 2liters in the am easy.

What are supps are you taking creatine? Etc.
If possible post your diet nd training program

You shouldn't be taking 40mg Dbol all in one go. It's probably back pumps, not your kidneys.

If you do suspect it's your kidneys, then stop the orals.

Thanks for all the replies.

I thought it was back pumps but it feels different and higher up more towards the middle of my back.

I am taking my Dianabol today split into 4 @10mg a time 3-4 hours appart. Feels a bit better but without tests it is hard to say for sure what it is. I will do blood test for liver and kidney today and see what the result is.

@Samz4000 yesterday it was my left side and today it is on the right side. I am only supplementing with whey and pre-workout. No extra creatine or bcaa's etc.

Here is my diet.

Breakfast
Whey 1 Serving
Peanut Butter 1tbsp
Oats 60g
Egg Whites 4

Meal 1
Lean Mince 200g
Broccoli 122g
Almonds 50g

Meal 2
Chicken Breast 200g
Green Beans 210g

Meal 3
Chicken Breast 170g
Brown Rice 150g

Post-Gym
Whey 2Servings
Dextrose 63.6g

Dinner
Chicken Breast 190g
Sweet Potato 450g

I agree with pump. Stop the orals if you are not sure. I ended up in hospital 2 years ago as my creatinine levels went through the roof and unbearable pain, so got admitted for acute kidney failure. Just hearing those words freaks me out. Luckily they narrowed it down to an infection, and healed. Stop the orals and test your kidneys rather to play safe - thats what i would have done

Good luck bro!

I would also back off on the protien. 1.5 p kg is quite enough.

MJonny wrote: I would also back off on the protien. 1.5 p kg is quite enough.

Couldnt agree more

Thanks guys,

I did test my kidneys and liver, still waiting for blood results.

Since last week I dropped my protein significantly. Still not 100%. Stopped taking orals and resting a bit from gym until I get my results and will take it from there.

If I drop protein to 1.5g per kg I will be at 172g protein. How would I adjust my carbs to get to my caloric need or do I drop calories as well?

Good Healthy fats would do you good to up calories but not worth going over 40% of total calories from fat. and then if you have some calories left go for carbs.

Thanks RB,

I will slowly make these adjustments to prevent any unwanted bf gain.

I finally got my results and everything is in normal ranges.

I am still cutting down on protein and feeling a lot better.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

Bud. Good fats wil helo with the calories. Coconut oil is a good saturated fat. Olive oil cold. Take a table spoon befor u gonto bed. Half a avo with your lunch and 2 or 3 whole eggs with brekkie. Fill up on plenty of greens and get a electrolite sugar free drink. Not energade. Sip on that every now and then. Yiu will be fine. Make sure to get extra fluids on hot days and stay hidrated while u train, especcially pre workout aswell.

I'm waiting for my blood test results, but having backed off on the extra whey protein I already feel a lot better. Thanks for starting the thread esgaroth.

Appreciate the feedback,

at the end of the day we all want gainz but we also want to come out as healthy as possible on the other side.

I am going to rework my diet with new protein macros and adjust the rest to be in balancce. Thanks for all the advice. I am feeling a lot better although I am eating less and still maintaining my weight.