Tough time studying

Hi guys,

So I have just started a correspondence course in health and safety and I’m having a tough time studying. I have done a few lil courses over the past years but nothing as hectic as this.

I eat pretty decent and do some cardio in the evening, however I feel so lethargic when I get home. I am motivated to study, however I struggle to stay awake and actually absorb what I’m reading.

So I want to find out if anyone has any advice? And if any brain foods or supplements actually help for concentration?
I can’t afford to mess this up so I’m willing to give pretty much anything a try.

any advice or tips will be greatly appreciated.

Um I would suggest the simple things like omega 3.

But if I recall 00pump used to take something for ADHD, but has a detrimental effect on the heart. I'm not hundred percent certain but that may be your best bet if you're hell bent on using something for that purpose.
Probably would be best to discus with a doctor and obtain these meds legally.

In my opinion try get more quality rest, stay calm and have some ambient noise in the background. If energy is really as bad as you say, bioplus sachet when you sit down to study...

Hey Garth.. this is a anabolic steroid forum, so I won't be giving advise on that type of medication.

Go have a chat to a psychiatrist. There is many options available.. but I will say from a whole look at things, being rested is critical and so is eating well throughout the day..

thanx for the comments

i know the general discussion is about steroids but i know a lot of the guys here have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to all kinds of chemicals.

doctor has offered me Concerta, so was just hoping someone could offer me some advice on it.

Garth89 wrote: thanx for the comments

i know the general discussion is about steroids but i know a lot of the guys here have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to all kinds of chemicals.

doctor has offered me Concerta, so was just hoping someone could offer me some advice on it.

My boy uses Concerta and its made the world of difference in his school work, his concentration levels are amazing at 27mg daily. Not sure what they would prescribe to an adult though. Another thing is its R600 per month for the 27mg tabs so expect a hefty price. Concerta is a schedule 6 so you also have to get a prescription monthly opposed to once every 6 months.

Lucky guy take the Concerta problem solved!

Always try the safest route first. Some people can get away with just 300mg Wellbutrin .. if that doesn't help look at strattera (which is actually a "non stimulant, stimulant")

It takes a bit of time to work, not right off the cuff like concerta, the thing with strattera is the dose very much depends on your weight.

Concerta is great but comes with allot of side effects..

Without contradicting Pump, who is way more knowledgeable in this field than I am, both my children were assessed as mildly ADHD, and both performed significantly better academically on Concerta. They are at university now, and still take it as needed.

mack wrote: Without contradicting Pump, who is way more knowledgeable in this field than I am, both my children were assessed as mildly ADHD, and both performed significantly better academically on Concerta. They are at university now, and still take it as needed.

As I said it is a very effective drug.. The thing is strattera would not have been available when your kids where younger.

Also I wouldn't advise Concerta for a here and there use as its active for 12 hours, I'd rather use a fast acting ritalin (methylphenidate) which is the actual drug in both ritalin and Concerta..

The only difference between concerta and ritalin extended release in a very basic understanding is, one slowly comes out in a "tube" type of way and the other like onions where it peals off layers.

Again I would try Strattera first. The prices are pretty close.. and then if you looking for a 'boost' then maybe it's better to use a short acting version of the methylphenidate so it's out your system quickly if something goes wrong, like 160+ bpm which could be countered by a beta blocker.. anyway this is going way to deep and I don't want to discuss schedule 6 drugs anymore.. Ritalin / Concerta / methylphenidate are highly addictive, so rather go speak to a psychiatrist who can do a proper assessment, which is around 20+ pages and then a 2 hour consultation for him to assess you properly and go through a series of questions to evaluate if this is the best approach for you.

Definitely Ritalin. Easy to get. Just go to your GP and tell him you are struggling to concentrate while studying and you would like to try Ritalin. He will immediately write a prescription. It is way to easy to get these meds. Dosage will depend on your weight.

I use it in my exams only as days and days of studying can get to you.

Giving this to school children is bad news IMO, points go up but when these children reach university they struggle to concentrate and the dosage becomes even higher until you MUST take it everyday because you can't function without it. They become almost 'vegetable' like if I can put it that way. They loose all of their personality. So just be careful with this compound! DO NOT POST INFORMATION LIKE YOU HAVE HERE, WHICH I HAVE REMOVED

That's some terrible advice.. let's rather go to a GP that has not studied in this field and do not go ahead and do an assessment and a long one on one with a psychiatrist, because you can just get it from a MD.

I do not believe GPs should be allowed to prescribe schedule 6 drugs.. doctors will refuse point blank to treat an addiction and you need to see a psychiatrist, yet they can prescribe the very drug that can cause an addiction.

Small one we try tend to provide "good advice" on the forum

Sorry!!! My mistake. Thought it has become general info already. I apologize. Did not think before I posted obviously.

Also agree on not believing in GP's. Like I said, it is to easy to get this drug.

00pump wrote: That's some terrible advice.. let's rather go to a GP that has not studied in this field and do not go ahead and do an assessment and a long one on one with a psychiatrist, because you can just get it from a MD.

I do not believe GPs should be allowed to prescribe schedule 6 drugs.. doctors will refuse point blank to treat an addiction and you need to see a psychiatrist, yet they can prescribe the very drug that can cause an addiction.

Small one we try tend to provide "good advice" on the forum

My GP who would take a bullet for me told me straight up he will send me to the best psychiatrist and she will decide if Ritalin/Provigil/Adderall is the best way forward. He will not prescribe these drugs end of story.

Pyroclasm wrote:

00pump wrote: That's some terrible advice.. let's rather go to a GP that has not studied in this field and do not go ahead and do an assessment and a long one on one with a psychiatrist, because you can just get it from a MD.

I do not believe GPs should be allowed to prescribe schedule 6 drugs.. doctors will refuse point blank to treat an addiction and you need to see a psychiatrist, yet they can prescribe the very drug that can cause an addiction.

Small one we try tend to provide "good advice" on the forum

My GP who would take a bullet for me told me straight up he will send me to the best psychiatrist and she will decide if Ritalin/Provigil/Adderall is the best way forward. He will not prescribe these drugs end of story.

And those are the doctors I respect the most.. it is the same as my GP, once it gets to things that relate to a specialised practice for a specific field, she calls them up, explains the situation and sends through my entire file

Wish I could find a GP that actually knew about the endocrine system :pinch:

So far they have been less than helpful and don't see a need for them aside for referring patients to specialist, and writing scripts for anti biotics.

No offence to members that may be GPs

@ Garth89:

What course are you doing bro?

Garth89 wrote: Hi guys,

So I have just started a correspondence course in health and safety and I’m having a tough time studying. I have done a few lil courses over the past years but nothing as hectic as this.

I eat pretty decent and do some cardio in the evening, however I feel so lethargic when I get home. I am motivated to study, however I struggle to stay awake and actually absorb what I’m reading.

So I want to find out if anyone has any advice? And if any brain foods or supplements actually help for concentration?
I can’t afford to mess this up so I’m willing to give pretty much anything a try.

any advice or tips will be greatly appreciated.

Hi.

I am not going to go into how bad concerta and ritalin is for anyone, but I will provide you with an alternative, should you be interseted

www.flordis.co.za/products/keenmind

I do not work for Keenmind (In case anyone think I am endorsing), have just heard great things. It does take a while to work 100% though.

I agree, if it is you are notably concerned about you inability to concentrate and focus as effectively as you could and should then I suggest that you see a specialist. It really depends what you want a solution to your challenge or a quick fix. Let me tell you that we all respond differently to chemical compounds.

Thus you may have to try varying dosage and compounds available in SA to find a solution that works for you. Personally I found adderall more effective for my case relative to some of the other options however it is not available for prescription in SA.

I have also found the use of ALCAR and Choline supplement effective to relieve some of the challenges I have. I am away travelling and the latter supplements are all I am currently using at the moment. In my case all but one of conventional ADHD supplements adversely effected my libido. If you have some ALCAR and Choline lying around try the combo and let us know what results you experience after a day or two.

@ Furk

hey bro, im doing the E learning SAMTRAC international course

Garth89 wrote: @ Furk

hey bro, im doing the E learning SAMTRAC international course

Woaw. I actually did courses just like this at my workplace, and for me it's mandatory (Danish & Singaporean accredited I believe). Pretty interesting, never considered working with HSE & RA. Mind me asking if you going into a risk management job sector? Or just improving credibility in your current occupation?

Furk wrote:

Garth89 wrote: @ Furk

hey bro, im doing the E learning SAMTRAC international course

Woaw. I actually did courses just like this at my workplace, and for me it's mandatory (Danish & Singaporean accredited I believe). Pretty interesting, never considered working with HSE & RA. Mind me asking if you going into a risk management job sector? Or just improving credibility in your current occupation?

the HSE industry has been a passion of mine for a few years, just never had the cash to pay for my studies until now, im not in the industry at the moment but would like to make it my career once i get my certificate - have another diploma course that i want to do but hey 1 at a time as they are rather pricey.

Hey Garth89, what did you end up deciding? How's the studies going?

yo Furk

studies are going along, struggling abit as i don't have any previous knowledge of the industry, so basically everything is new to me.

was a lil apprehensive about using Concerta or Ritalin without first trying the other options.
just got myself a good multi vit ,some Vit B injections and just bought a bottle of Keenmind which 1 of the other members recommended. will start it tomorrow and update you guys once I've given it a awhile to get into my system

Ya I also have hard studying and staying still