Superbikes vs Super Motards

Test ride the 600 before u buy they are meant for sports racing so work well at high rev range open road and scratching corners but in the traffic can be a bitch thats were the 1000 works better ...in traffic and open road ...to get a good second hand low milaege at your price u are looking at a 400 motard ect Suzuki ect... but all jap bikes are six of one and half dozen of the other just personal preference at the end of the day...750 also sounds like a better choice but might be out of your price range....if u had real money then look at Ducati or Aprillia. Just get used to the extra power before winding as u can come short on any boney if u not careful ...to state the obvious. shot bru

Oupa wrote: but the wind @ 200+ km/h is kuk

Stadig Oupa :lol: those were the days

mike123 wrote:

Oupa wrote: but the wind @ 200+ km/h is kuk

Stadig Oupa :lol: those were the days

Whaha, that's without any fairing infront , Z750.....

I've had both the SV650 and GSXR 750. Both lekker bikes... Both fun... The only problem with the 750 is to have fun (read wind it through the gears) you need to be very irresponsible...lol. You get about 160 when the shift light flashes in 2nd. The SV you can have fun feeling the pull through the gears and you only get to like 80 in 3rd.

If you are going to get the 750 you gotta do track to really enjoy it... or breakfast runs, but the cops are getting full of nonsense lately...

My SV1000 did 100 in 1st, 140 in 2nd etc. Clocked out at 276km/h.

However, overall commuter was very nice, not as crouched down as superbike, but not as straightup as on a GS. sort of in between. No issues with weight on wrists.

Was doing a very respectable 120km'h in traffic at 4000revs when I used to split. Nice thing about the V-twin is that you have huge amounts of torque available, even from low revs.

Oh, and was it mentioned that they sound wicked with aftermarket pipes...

SV wrote: My SV1000 did 100 in 1st, 140 in 2nd etc. Clocked out at 276km/h.

However, overall commuter was very nice, not as crouched down as superbike, but not as straightup as on a GS. sort of in between. No issues with weight on wrists.

Was doing a very respectable 120km'h in traffic at 4000revs when I used to split. Nice thing about the V-twin is that you have huge amounts of torque available, even from low revs.

Oh, and was it mentioned that they sound wicked with aftermarket pipes...

Nice ....but for the real v twin sound = harley

For those that complain about sports bikes being hard on the arms ect ect...harden up !
Back in the day we used to ride from CT to PE to the buff on Honda Fours and Kawa 900s with clip ons just above the bottom triple tree no fairings rev counter in your face ...sleeping bag can of wine and a blick of bully beef ....no problems...gooi...good old days....however today I battle to ride to the strand without feeling it.

SV wrote: My SV1000 did 100 in 1st, 140 in 2nd etc. Clocked out at 276km/h.

However, overall commuter was very nice, not as crouched down as superbike, but not as straightup as on a GS. sort of in between. No issues with weight on wrists.

Was doing a very respectable 120km'h in traffic at 4000revs when I used to split. Nice thing about the V-twin is that you have huge amounts of torque available, even from low revs.

Oh, and was it mentioned that they sound wicked with aftermarket pipes...

Silver is the best SV colour
I had the 2003 SV 650... The front washed out in JHB CBD under light braking due to terrible road surface
Bike was written off.

Thanks for all your inputs guys, they've really helped a lot!

I spoke to a mate of mine today who suggested that maybe I should look at something even smaller than the 600's like the 400cc bikes. He suggested a few like the DRZ400SM, the RVF400R NC35, the CBR400 and the GSXR400 which could be an idea as I don't want to jump to anything that would be too powerful for someone relatively new to street bikes (have had mostly dirt bikes in the past).

Maybe I should actually go and test some bikes out and see for myself... Because I want something that will be easy enough for me to control and enjoy, whilst not getting bored of it too quickly. I will mainly be using it as a commuter I will probably choose something with a lighter frame for better acceleration and something bigger with a greater top end...

I would go for a 600. They are very user friendly budi. You will get bored of the 400 very quickly. Just my 2cents.
Oh, and please don't buy a bmw gs 650. They are meant for guys with a pussy and not balls

400cc sperbikes , spares will be an issue now and then. Just remember that a well tuned RGV vj22 / TZR 3xv / NSR .mc21 or Rc28 or even a RS250 will kick your ass.

When looking at 400cc sperbikes, look at these - gsxr (gk76) model. Honda - VFR Rc30 or Rc 35. Yamaha - fzr 3tj (only good models that can take a bashing )

Someone on one of the other forums I am a member of is selling the bike below for R50k (Negotiable). 19000Km's. Contact SMS 083 212 97 27

Lovely touring bike ! But i think .MK is looking for a fluff collecting toy

Bandit1200 wrote: I would go for a 600. They are very user friendly budi. You will get bored of the 400 very quickly.



I think a lot depends on your personal riding style...if u want to scream around scraping and scratching threw corners then the 600 :evil: If u want to get from A to B like a gentleman then the 400
and then move up at a later stage.....

Oupa wrote: Lovely touring bike ! But i think .MK is looking for a fluff collecting toy

hahahahaha

mike123 wrote:

Bandit1200 wrote: I would go for a 600. They are very user friendly budi. You will get bored of the 400 very quickly.



I think a lot depends on your personal riding style...if u want to scream around scraping and scratching threw corners then the 600 :evil: If u want to get from A to B like a gentleman then the 400
and then move up at a later stage.....

todays technology 400's and 600's are very close... To have fun with a 600 you need to ride in the revs to get any sorts of action out of it. 600 is the way to go and then upgrade from there lol...

bones wrote: Someone on one of the other forums I am a member of is selling the bike below for R50k (Negotiable). 19000Km's. Contact SMS 083 212 97 27

Very good bike at a very good price. You cannot go wrong on that one as well.

Either way, if you are on 2 wheels you will collect fluff, even if you are on a Hardley Dangerous

Hmm it seems everyone on here favours 600s over 400s - are you guys sure that I will be able to handle the speed of a 600 if I haven't ridden something that big before?

What I've also been told is that if I am not using this every single day I should rather get something cheaper, and therefore smaller, but like you guys say I will probably get bored of the 400 quickly.

@Bandit: Hahaha that's the exact bike my mate has, who has been telling me to aim for a 400 rather!

@Oupa: Thanks for those suggestions, will take a look at them now.

P.S: when looking for a second hand bike, what sort of specs should I look out for or what things should I be wary of?

MK wrote: Hmm it seems everyone on here favours 600s over 400s - are you guys sure that I will be able to handle the speed of a 600 if I haven't ridden something that big before?

What I've also been told is that if I am not using this every single day I should rather get something cheaper, and therefore smaller, but like you guys say I will probably get bored of the 400 quickly.

@Bandit: Hahaha that's the exact bike my mate has, who has been telling me to aim for a 400 rather!

@Oupa: Thanks for those suggestions, will take a look at them now.

P.S: when looking for a second hand bike, what sort of specs should I look out for or what things should I be wary of?

here are a couple of things I look out for :
Look under the bike, check for damage (if its been dropped)
Check the the front end is straight, no play on the neck bearings, fork seals aren't leaking and the front end doesn't bottom out under heavy breaking.
Check that there are no cracks or dings on the rims.
Ride the bike hard make sure the clutch doesn't slip. Ride hard through all the gears and make sure none of the gears are jumping out. And definatley make sure there's no engine noise that shouldn't be there. Engine number and VIN numbers all match up. Just a few things I would check... Hope it gives you an idea

@ MK

If you ever take advice from some online about bikes, remember this -

No bike is to big, 600, 750, 1000cc , doesn't matter, it's what you do with the bike that matters. Trust me ! My wife is 48kg, 1.6m and rides a gsxr 1000 k2. Ya it's heavy to reverse push out of a parking, but if it's not a everyday transport, who gives a fck

Just take it easy, go feel what fits between your legs. Respect what ever you ride.

Carbs carbs carbs........ Just becareful for a carb bike.... If not used daily, you Might have n issue with them firing and being balanced properly.....
I had some carb bikes and will never buy another. Rather go fuel injected.
Seems like alot of forum members have bikes..... Breakfast run anyone? :evil:
I agree, no such thing as too many cc.... The power and use of it is in the wrists..... Gear up, thats all

Don't mean to sound like a party pooper but if your over 90 kg you have no place on, or use of a 600... I've got a FZ1 now(the naked R1) and I look like a chop on it.
By a bike that suits your size and tht you can get the most out of or your wasting your cash.
I want a 1200gs adventure now, they'll do over 200 and I won't look like I'm sucking myself off while I'm riding it.

While 600 my be fantastic if your 70/ 80kg it's def not a bike for bigger guys.

By that I mean 600 super bike. The BMWgs 800 is also one hell of a bike.

bones wrote: Someone on one of the other forums I am a member of is selling the bike below for R50k (Negotiable). 19000Km's. Contact SMS 083 212 97 27

B-e-a-utiful!! :blush:

More things to check for:
Stand behind the bike and check if the passenger footrests are lined up... check the bar ends for scrapes also the brake and clutch levers and mirrors... these generally touch down first even in slow falls... and if they are "usable" probably wont get replaced. Check that the panels line up... check that the colours are right... Look at pics of the year model you are looking to buy... I almost bought two bikes that had previously been crashed and were being sold as "accident free". The guy had put half the panels of a newer bike on a year older bike... so the lines weren't quite matching up.

Check the wear on the tyres... if it's uneven it could be simple balancing or alignment or it could be bent forks or frame etc.