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Now its just not the same, No focus, no pump...I get thru my workout but it just does not feel that gr8...Been reading that pre-workouts like jackd3d are not that grand after all....so...whats the suggestion for a relatively inexpensive good pre-workout for a good pump and some focus with out the negativity of jack3d band of pre-workouts?
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It promotes vascularity, which I'm starting to see, plus it hasn't got that DMMA stuff in it. That shit just made me :sick:
The one online shop up here in Joburg has it for 385 for 40 servings.
Try it out..
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Wayne wrote: Ok, been training for quite a long time with pre-workouts such as jack3d and other NO2 stuff. Stopped everythin with fasting came up. Back in training now for 2 weeks with no pre-workout, just have some whey, creatine and L-carintine before working out.
Now its just not the same, No focus, no pump...I get thru my workout but it just does not feel that gr8...Been reading that pre-workouts like jackd3d are not that grand after all....so...whats the suggestion for a relatively inexpensive good pre-workout for a good pump and some focus with out the negativity of jack3d band of pre-workouts?
I am a big fan of noxipro, retails around 340 at pick n pay. However, in terms of best bang for buck, I was thoroughly impressed with evox 3dt muscle punch and at 149 bucks it was really worth every penny.
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MRfeathers wrote: for me noxipro is almost identical to jack 3D
yeah its got 20% more 1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCL per gram as compared to Jack3d I believe.
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Rookie wrote: I'm enjoying the new Purus Labs one, ConDense.
It promotes vascularity, which I'm starting to see, plus it hasn't got that DMMA stuff in it. That shit just made me :sick:
The one online shop up here in Joburg has it for 385 for 40 servings.
Try it out..
im also keen on this one. read a good independant review on it.
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I got the Melon Berry flavor, it's okay. I've had much worse tasting PW's before.
Just a work of advice, mix it with a little bit of water, then up the water to your taste.
The recomended 236ml of water makes the Melon Berry taste weak...
I'm not vascular at all, and I'm seeing a few veins pop here and there.
I can also feel the endurance enhancement it claims.
Dont be fooled by the small container, the serving scoop is very small.
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I feel like I get a better reward out of getting my mind to focus, and pumping myself up with music rather than taking pre-workouts, and I doubt I'll ever go back. Plus, think about the hundreds of Rands I save each month that I can spend on other things. Maybe give it a try for a while and you might turn out to be the same
Getting to your question, when I did take pre-workouts I really enjoyed one called 'Chemical X', don't know if they still make the stuff, but I felt like it worked just as well as Jack3d plus it was much cheaper.
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I find the best is eating 200g oats, 30g dextrose and 60g whey(put all in a blender) about 50mins before workout, then about 20mins before my workout i have some CEE, beta alanine, taurine, l carnitine and 5 grams of bcaa, i get great energy and pumps from this stack. I will never try a conventional pre workout again..
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manery wrote: I used pre workouts for 3 years, tryed everything.
I find the best is eating 200g oats, 30g dextrose and 60g whey(put all in a blender) about 50mins before workout, then about 20mins before my workout i have some CEE, beta alanine, taurine, l carnitine and 5 grams of bcaa, i get great energy and pumps from this stack. I will never try a conventional pre workout again..
How do you manage all that food pre workout? I do my weight training in a fasted state in mornings and find that my workout is much more intense than if i consume food before hand. Just a pre workout or double espresso and i am good to go
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Wayne wrote: thanks for the replies! If you been following the latest talk, dmaa is exactly what i am tryin to avoid! dj said it actualy decreases muscle! So dont want anythin wit dmaa! Interested to hear jackrabbit's opinion, i know he loved the pre-workouts like jackd but is off them now for health reasons, how is he coping?
Check this thread Wayne:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/9-suppl...117612-jack3d#117868
You have no idea how glad i am that i got off them. That kick you think you are getting from Jack3d is actually one in the groin.
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PoisonedPulse wrote: i must agree with MK, i was exactly the same, got paranoid to train without a pre-workout, then just man'd up, started with 100g oats 40g whey and 30g raisins, never looked back, have energy, get good pumps, ill never use a pre again.
I third that!
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ABC01 wrote:
manery wrote: I used pre workouts for 3 years, tryed everything.
I find the best is eating 200g oats, 30g dextrose and 60g whey(put all in a blender) about 50mins before workout, then about 20mins before my workout i have some CEE, beta alanine, taurine, l carnitine and 5 grams of bcaa, i get great energy and pumps from this stack. I will never try a conventional pre workout again..
How do you manage all that food pre workout? I do my weight training in a fasted state in mornings and find that my workout is much more intense than if i consume food before hand. Just a pre workout or double espresso and i am good to go
I put 200g oats in the blender without liquid and put it on for like 2mins(oats become powdery), then chuck my protien, dextrose and water. I used to get bloated from just eating 100g oats and my protein shake before my workout but since Ive been using the blender i get NO BLOAT i could easily put 300g oats in if i wanted to and still be fine, and it tastes great.
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ABC01 wrote:
manery wrote: I used pre workouts for 3 years, tryed everything.
I find the best is eating 200g oats, 30g dextrose and 60g whey(put all in a blender) about 50mins before workout, then about 20mins before my workout i have some CEE, beta alanine, taurine, l carnitine and 5 grams of bcaa, i get great energy and pumps from this stack. I will never try a conventional pre workout again..
How do you manage all that food pre workout? I do my weight training in a fasted state in mornings and find that my workout is much more intense than if i consume food before hand. Just a pre workout or double espresso and i am good to go
I put 200g oats in the blender without liquid and put it on for like 2mins(oats become powdery), then chuck my protien, dextrose and water. I used to get bloated from just eating 100g oats and my protein shake before my workout but since Ive been using the blender i get NO BLOAT i could easily put 300g oats in if i wanted to and still be fine, and it tastes great.
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jackrabbit1 wrote:
Wayne wrote: thanks for the replies! If you been following the latest talk, dmaa is exactly what i am tryin to avoid! dj said it actualy decreases muscle! So dont want anythin wit dmaa! Interested to hear jackrabbit's opinion, i know he loved the pre-workouts like jackd but is off them now for health reasons, how is he coping?
Check this thread Wayne:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/9-suppl...117612-jack3d#117868
You have no idea how glad i am that i got off them. That kick you think you are getting from Jack3d is actually one in the groin.
thanks jack! How is that shockwave? Whats the ingredients?
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jackrabbit1 wrote:
Wayne wrote: thanks for the replies! If you been following the latest talk, dmaa is exactly what i am tryin to avoid! dj said it actualy decreases muscle! So dont want anythin wit dmaa! Interested to hear jackrabbit's opinion, i know he loved the pre-workouts like jackd but is off them now for health reasons, how is he coping?
Check this thread Wayne:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/9-suppl...117612-jack3d#117868
You have no idea how glad i am that i got off them. That kick you think you are getting from Jack3d is actually one in the groin.
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