Gonna try PGW for the first time ;-)

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11 Jun 2012 21:26 #107851 by Robin Hood
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Well, if everything goes according to plan, i'll be hitting some Deca and Test from PGW as i never actually gained anything from Nomad...

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11 Jun 2012 21:43 #107854 by VonD
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Nice pgw is top notch.nomad is the bottem of the barrel haha.how much will you be running?

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11 Jun 2012 22:45 #107859 by aspoester
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Best of luck man, you wont be disappointed. :D
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12 Jun 2012 06:34 - 12 Jun 2012 06:45 #107871 by Robin Hood
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VonD wrote: Nice pgw is top notch.nomad is the bottem of the barrel haha.how much will you be running?

Not a lot...1x Deca 350 (10 mil) and 2x Test (10mil)...Thing is, ive been off for quite a while and i battle to pick up weight ( hard gainer)...Since i started BB, (and had the "ching"), i only used bulking-stuff...lol

In the past i was only introduced to Nomad....but to ME it seemed like a waste of money...no really...

I started gyming again yesterday after a couple of months lay-off, but couldn't BELIEVE...how quick my muscles regained their looks and feel...its as if i never left at all, lol
(obviously not the same size, but more than i expected) :)

Last but not least...my "confidence" came back again....(weird how BB can BOOST a person's confidence, eh?)
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12 Jun 2012 08:16 #107879 by Etwa
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How long will you be running this for, seems like not enough.

VonD was also asking how many mg's will you be running per week and for how long?

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12 Jun 2012 15:38 - 12 Jun 2012 15:41 #107999 by Robin Hood
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Etwa wrote: How long will you be running this for, seems like not enough.

VonD was also asking how many mg's will you be running per week and for how long?

Well, sometimes more isnt better hey...I will be running it for 10 weeks straight, so it will work out 600mg Test + 350mg Deca per week...I'm not a HUGE guy....only 1.65m
For PCT i'll run plain Clomid...
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12 Jun 2012 16:20 #108015 by MCJ
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U really need to add tamofixen, HCG at least or ovidrel to ur pct bro. Clomid alone just won't cut it with deca.....

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12 Jun 2012 16:37 #108021 by VonD
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Doctori pct should be used bro check the download section.also deca needs to be run 12weeks or more for optimal results

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12 Jun 2012 20:10 - 12 Jun 2012 20:12 #108089 by Robin Hood
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thx guys...will work on my pct :-)
...i'll shall take note on the DECA advise as well....thx
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12 Jun 2012 20:45 #108104 by Robin Hood
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I was thinking...Can a guy use Deca lets say every 2nd week? This way i'll use deca for 20 weeks
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week 1 = 600mg Test + 300mg Deca
week 2 = 600mg Test ONLY
week 3 = 600mg Test + 300mg Deca
week 4 = 600mg Test ONLY
etc etc

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12 Jun 2012 20:47 #108106 by VonD
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No you cant.must be used every week.just buy another vial.

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12 Jun 2012 21:00 - 12 Jun 2012 21:10 #108111 by Robin Hood
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VonD wrote: No you cant.must be used every week.just buy another vial.


k...will do...thx VonD
PS: but i CAN continue using Deca without Test, yes? (after my 10th week with Test)

Or instead of just using Deca, just for kicks, redo my cycle as-is for another 10 weeks, and go on one HELL of a PCT ;-)
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12 Jun 2012 21:23 #108120 by manery
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Its not advised to do deca without test, rule of thumb is to use test for an additional 2 weeks after you finish deca.

Just run the test for 12 weeks and deca for 10, this will be a nice cycle.

wk 1-12 600mg test
wk 1-10 350mg deca

pct starts 36 days after last test injection.

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12 Jun 2012 21:32 #108127 by Robin Hood
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must admit...This sounds a bit more "Pocket-Friendly", lol

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12 Jun 2012 21:41 - 12 Jun 2012 21:49 #108130 by VonD
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you can do that bit that's beating the point of using deca...deca is a long ester and needs to be run for 12-16weeks for optimal results.why not wait save up the money and do it properly???
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12 Jun 2012 22:03 #108144 by Robin Hood
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VonD wrote: you can do that bit that's beating the point of using deca...deca is a long ester and needs to be run for 12-16weeks for optimal results.why not wait save up the money and do it properly???

I'll be getting in some bucks close to the end of the month, then i might get some more stuff. Maybe also go on a better PCT as well...no use spending bucks, but loose everything due to sh!tty PCT...

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13 Jun 2012 07:05 #108159 by Empire
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best advice i ever got was buy your pct first
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13 Jun 2012 08:50 - 13 Jun 2012 08:52 #108177 by Robin Hood
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VonD wrote: Doctori pct should be used bro check the download section.also deca needs to be run 12weeks or more for optimal results

I had a look at this PCT...If i use it as directed/advised, percentage-wise...What would you think a guy might loose on your gains/strength?
( cause you always loose "something" after a cycle )
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13 Jun 2012 08:55 #108178 by VonD
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That is personal cant really say.it depends on your diet and training and pct.

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13 Jun 2012 11:47 #108241 by Robin Hood
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VonD wrote: That is personal cant really say.it depends on your diet and training and pct.

Lets put it this way....I'll keep on pumping myself with protien and carbs...even AFTER my cycle. Also, i like training hard, whether i'm on gear or not...Im using hard gainer supplements from USN....50g Prot + 228g Carbs per serving...
So it will be eating chicken 'n stuff during the day, and still have about 2 servings per day of the USN stuff...PER DAY!

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13 Jun 2012 16:03 - 13 Jun 2012 21:55 #108338 by gorilla
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Well I think you can go through pct without losing anything...Just do everything right.

Im going to bridge with dbol and proviron as well as GHRP-6 500mcg daily. The GHRP-6 throughpct until a month after should keep your gains coming and strength up. You will obviously lose water retention,but thats it.

Lets go!
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13 Jun 2012 21:48 #108417 by Pyroclasm
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Can we please please make a sticky that explains why mass gainer shakes are a load of bull?

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13 Jun 2012 21:57 #108424 by GregB1
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bro chill. if someone does not wanna take advice and leave the mass gainers then leave them to carry on with it. if someone thinks they good no matter how much u tell them they shit they wont care, they will still use it.

With hard work and dedication you can achieve anything!

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13 Jun 2012 22:05 #108428 by GregB1
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some people will just never take good advice :)

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13 Jun 2012 22:26 #108440 by Pyroclasm
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Haha bro I am not angry or anything just think its a good idea for the new guys to read about mass gainers on a sticky before gloating about their extreme anabolic effects. Kinda annoying correcting people on the same topic all the time. :whistle:

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