cycle gains vs natural gains

MRfeathers
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21 May 2012 11:25 #104797 by MRfeathers

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whats up guys

just a question out of curiosity. if i had to do a 12 week testocyp cycle and pick up 10kg of muscle. how long would it take me to gain that ammount of muscle naturally?

i know we all gain differently and it would be tough to judge. but im just looking for rough estimations from people that have a lot of experience in bodybuilding

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gab
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21 May 2012 13:20 #104817 by gab

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maybe 2 years he he. all diet related. thats 10kg muscle and not fat.

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MRfeathers
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21 May 2012 13:26 #104822 by MRfeathers

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i was also thinking something like 2 years.

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gorilla
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21 May 2012 17:03 #104868 by gorilla

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I was 49kg when I started training. Used USN hyperbolic mass, Fast grow amino stack, Creatine monohydrate, Glutaphase and ate like a beast!

I was 14kgs heavier by the end of the year. That was my first year training.

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MRfeathers
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21 May 2012 18:02 #104876 by MRfeathers

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Wow that's impressive

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p1et
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21 May 2012 18:06 #104877 by p1et

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I think it will be heavily influenced by the amount of muscle you already have on your frame, the closer you get to the maximum lean muscle your frame can cary naturally the slower your gains will be.

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MRfeathers
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21 May 2012 18:07 #104878 by MRfeathers

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Yeah I agree with you bro. That plays a big factor

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gorilla
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21 May 2012 18:16 #104883 by gorilla

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My second year I gained like 6kg and then like 4kg judging by size I stopped weighing then did dbol and gained some more...Now at 92-95 looking to be 105 solid after my test cycle.

I think the average gain per year would be between 4-8kg.

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MRfeathers
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21 May 2012 19:18 #104892 by MRfeathers

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When are you starting your cycle?

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gorilla
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21 May 2012 19:37 #104895 by gorilla

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About 7 weeks....

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MikeM1
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21 May 2012 20:41 #104906 by MikeM1

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Gorilla, how many years have you been training, you talking a 40 odd kg increase in how many years?

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gorilla
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21 May 2012 22:22 #104924 by gorilla

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4 and a half as of now.

Did a oral only cycle once with dbols for 10 weeks. Kept 10kgs with some fat. YES you can keep gains the first time androgens spike in the body just ask 00pump. My bodyfat went up with that but slightly.

Went from 49 to 76 before I started dbol, cant exactly remember the date, ended at 86 then built my way up to 88. Last time i weighed myself was a while ago and im between 92 and 95. Weight differs throughout the day I tend to eat a truckload!

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vega5
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22 May 2012 06:45 #104935 by vega5

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The theory is when you reached your natural peak you're lucky if you can gain 1kgper year of SOLID muscle. I said solid muscle for those thinking of getting a brain fart.

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gab
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22 May 2012 09:10 #104943 by gab

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he he he.

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manery
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23 May 2012 17:35 #105216 by manery

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gorilla wrote: 4 and a half as of now.

Did a oral only cycle once with dbols for 10 weeks. Kept 10kgs with some fat. YES you can keep gains the first time androgens spike in the body just ask 00pump. My bodyfat went up with that but slightly.

Went from 49 to 76 before I started dbol, cant exactly remember the date, ended at 86 then built my way up to 88. Last time i weighed myself was a while ago and im between 92 and 95. Weight differs throughout the day I tend to eat a truckload!

In other post's you say it was a 8 week dbol cycle and you gained 8 kg's ... hmmm

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gorilla
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23 May 2012 18:11 #105219 by gorilla

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That was a mmmmmmistake. Check my old old thread dude. I kept 8 eventually, dropped a month or so after pct while dropping fat, If you read correctly i said i gained some fat.

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manery
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23 May 2012 20:02 - 23 May 2012 20:03 #105236 by manery

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gorilla wrote: That was a mmmmmmistake. Check my old old thread dude. I kept 8 eventually, dropped a month or so after pct while dropping fat, If you read correctly i said i gained some fat.

Thats quite insane for a dbol only cycle with minimal weight loss after pct :blink: not saying i don't believe you, just noting the unlikeliness haha. what did you use for pct bro?

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gorilla
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23 May 2012 20:24 #105239 by gorilla

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I know bro, but I took it fucking seriously it sounds weird, but its true. I used clomid for a week then ovidrel for like 3 weeks then another week clomid.

Pump says the reason I didnt lose gains is because its the first time androgens spiked in my body.

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