Torn bicep ligament

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16 Apr 2012 12:06 #100802 by Tremere
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I have torn the ligament in my bicep. Went in and had surgery. The surgeon asked if i use steroids which i said yes, cause i was on 600mg test enth a week. My question is this. Does using testosterone weaken the ligament while you are on cycle only or does it weaken it permanently?

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16 Apr 2012 14:01 #100857 by Inja
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Your muscles become too strong for your tendons and ligaments.
Don't push the weights to hard, aim for growth reps around 8-12 and go down to 6 at most, unless you are used to strength training, in which case your tendons and ligaments are quite strong already.
Don't mess with form etc..

Your body will catch up.

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Its just my point of view
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16 Apr 2012 14:22 #100859 by ABC01
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Say in the case of Tremere where he had to get surgery. If you reveal that you are using steroids can the medical aid refuse to cover the costs?

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16 Apr 2012 15:20 #100875 by Inja
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I am of the understanding that they can yes, in the same way that they can call negligence on alcohol abuse. May depend on your medical aid type, etc, so I could be wrong. It's all illogical anyways...

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16 Apr 2012 15:39 #100886 by David.biohazard
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ABC01 wrote: Say in the case of Tremere where he had to get surgery. If you reveal that you are using steroids can the medical aid refuse to cover the costs?


Sure it"s "patient" "Dr" confidentiality.

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16 Apr 2012 16:56 #100900 by jackrabbit1
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Tremere you need to watch that clip of Kai doing Bi's in the General section(Motivational vids).
You dont need crazy weight that will cause a ligament to tear.
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23 Apr 2012 07:32 #101681 by Tremere
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@jack - thanx will watch it bro

The thing is n didnt tear it in the gym. I hurt my arm during a rugby game on the saterday and then on monday i picked up a not-so-heavy piece of metal, then it went rip. The doc said it can be the steroids + rugby + wrong angle that i picked up.

How do you strengthen the ligaments and tendons?

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23 Apr 2012 07:34 #101682 by Tremere
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To add on to the previous message, my arm was fully extended straight, so the bicep did not take any weight, all was on the ligament.

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23 Apr 2012 12:48 #101705 by jackrabbit1
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Not perhaps on Winstrol are you?

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23 Apr 2012 15:25 #101729 by Tremere
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No man it was test enth 600mg a week. But my question is if test weaken the ligaments permantly or just temporarily?

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23 Apr 2012 15:34 #101732 by Koe007
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Tremere wrote: No man it was test enth 600mg a week. But my question is if test weaken the ligaments permantly or just temporarily?


I stand to be corrected but I do not see how the test would actually weaken the ligaments. The muscles grow stronger and more dense and therefore the ligaments may need time to adjust, but other than that I do not see how the test could make them weaker.

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28 Apr 2012 22:04 #102428 by spike
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Firstly what we are talking about here is a tendon, not a ligament. Tendons attach muscle to bone, ligaments support and stabilise joints and connect bone to bone (generally speaking for any critical anatomists).

Secondly, no test is not known to weaken tendons or ligaments, but rather to increase the strength of the muscle disproportionately, resulting in a relatively weaker tendon.

Finally, in answer to your question on strengthening tendons, eccentric contractions (lowering weights and lengthening muscles slowwly and controlled) have been shown to have the best effect on tendon tensile strength

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29 Apr 2012 05:39 #102456 by kkx250
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Elke sport het sy beserings.

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23 Apr 2013 22:19 #136628 by Tremere
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Hey guys. Its been almost a year now. Arm is back to normal. And by normal i mean i can lift weigts the way i used to without problems. Cant lift as heavy as i used to, but im getting there again. Did my rehab properly etc. My question now is...(sorry wrong section) when i do my next cycle, after a long decent period of time getting 100% back into it again, do i need a "special" cycle or can i cycle as if nothing happened? You know, test deca etc. OR...

should i avoid the sauce completly?

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24 Apr 2013 08:17 #136653 by crawler
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Tremere wrote: Hey guys. Its been almost a year now. Arm is back to normal. And by normal i mean i can lift weigts the way i used to without problems. Cant lift as heavy as i used to, but im getting there again. Did my rehab properly etc. My question now is...(sorry wrong section) when i do my next cycle, after a long decent period of time getting 100% back into it again, do i need a "special" cycle or can i cycle as if nothing happened? You know, test deca etc. OR...

should i avoid the sauce completely?


The key would be to concentrate on form and DO NOT go as heavy as you can with 4/6 reps, rather do a bit higher rep range.

I have torn my pec muscle before, also took some time to get back into it 100% - and I know it's a mental thing but I opt to never go over 140kg Flat bench, as that tear sound is still in my mind and never ever want that again

So IMO I would say use again, but always be conscience of it and I know how it is everybody want to lift them heavy ass weight, BUT don't

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24 Apr 2013 09:30 - 24 Apr 2013 09:30 #136664 by Oupa
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Tremere wrote:
should i avoid the sauce completly?


I would consider a mild cycle, dont just go BANG it. Test/Nandro/Pro combo
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