Rowan - STILL under Construction...

Rowan
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15 Mar 2011 14:23 #63521 by Rowan

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Hey guys.

Well the time has come to stand before you and be judged... *gulp*

So my 10 week cyp course has come to an end, and this is what i have to show for myself.

Stats:

weight before course - 70kg
weight after course - 79kg

As you can see from the boep, my diet was supremely shyte. Will make big ammends in my next cycle.

Oh - and excuse the 'poses'... i haven't a clue! lol

Cheers guys.

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Empire
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15 Mar 2011 14:29 #63523 by Empire

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very decne change rowan... work more on the lats,start adding in pull ups and some bent over rows so the bar goes towards your hips and your elbows get as high as possible...any leg pics?

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15 Mar 2011 17:20 #63537 by Deadgoat

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Good results bru, agree with DJ you need to work on your lats. Delts and arms look good, should maybe have put more focus on chest. How much did you put on your bench?

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Rowan
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16 Mar 2011 09:51 #63603 by Rowan

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Thanks guys.

Fully agreed - lats & chest need major work.

Thanks DJ - will incorporate those exercises into my routine.

@ Deadgoat - went up to 110kg but started to feel some discomfort & pain in my wrists & elbows so dropped and stayed at 100kg.

Overall I'm satisfied with the results with regards to sex drive, strength and mass put on.

Still have much to learn though and looking forward to my next course!

Thanks for the comments boys.

Take care.

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16 Mar 2011 09:53 #63605 by 00pump

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You have a nice peak on your bicep

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16 Mar 2011 10:22 #63610 by Empire

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chest not majorly bad,but more incline and dips wouldnt hurt...rowan,where are the leg photos...

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Rowan
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16 Mar 2011 10:26 #63611 by Rowan

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00Pump i dont know if you're chooning me kak or genuinely complimenting me lol...

DJ - honestly the leg shots came out really crap! DIdnt want to post them out of embarassment! :blush:

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16 Mar 2011 10:33 #63612 by Empire

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well bud,thats what we are here for,to help u try and bring up the week points u are unhappy with....

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16 Mar 2011 10:38 #63614 by 00pump

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No I mean you have a really nice peak, I don't have the genetics for a nice peak.

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Deadgoat
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16 Mar 2011 11:27 #63626 by Deadgoat

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00pump wrote: No I mean you have a really nice peak, I don't have the genetics for a nice peak.

Same here, got low insertion points, but my arms look decent in a short sleeve though

@rowan dont feel embarrassed bout your legs bud, most people dont even train them so anything's better than nothing

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16 Mar 2011 11:31 #63629 by CHAPEL

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i get where you are coming from, i have been doing progress photos since the day i started training and still wont show anyone my uh leg "progress" if that's what you can call it ha ha... the photos always come out looking tiny (maybe its a sign that they are

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Nice results btw, looks like you thickened out pretty much everywhere, gonna run the same for my first cycle so hope i get the same results

thanks for sharing!

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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16 Mar 2011 12:53 #63658 by 00pump

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Also just keep an eye on those nipples, they look like they starting to get a little puffy. No concern now, but don't let it go beyond that.

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Rowan
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17 Mar 2011 11:44 #63752 by Rowan

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Hey pump.

Thanks for that bud!

You know the funny thing is, when i look in the mirror i see that they have become somewhat puffy, although there were no accompanying symptoms of itchiness or sensativity?!

Iv got 3 days of clomid therapy and then starting the kessar - which I think should sort things out?

What do you think?

Thanks again man.

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17 Mar 2011 14:12 #63767 by 00pump

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Clomid is a very weak SERM, and as much as it acts and an anti estrogen to the ER it acts as an estrogen to other tissue. Your estrogen levels might still be high from the cycle, and clomid is not strong enough, how much you using 100mg?

I would still have run a low dose AI, through the first week of PCT, to make sure estrogen is suppressed enough, remeber if estrogen is high, the Clomid will not be effective, and will not be increasing LH.

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17 Mar 2011 14:14 #63769 by 00pump

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Remeber another thing, Clomid has actually been shown to cause breast cancer just like Nolva, so as much as it aids in treatment it has been showing to increase its chances too.

In a few days, you will understand this post better, but for now I can't say anymore

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Rowan
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18 Mar 2011 10:27 #63805 by Rowan

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00pump wrote: Clomid is a very weak SERM, and as much as it acts and an anti estrogen to the ER it acts as an estrogen to other tissue. Your estrogen levels might still be high from the cycle, and clomid is not strong enough, how much you using 100mg?

I would still have run a low dose AI, through the first week of PCT, to make sure estrogen is suppressed enough, remeber if estrogen is high, the Clomid will not be effective, and will not be increasing LH.

Ja Pump - doing 100mg a day (50mg in the am & 50mg in the pm)

To be 100% clear (and sorry to beat this to death) - are you saying that the kessar on its own will not be effective for the puffy nipples during my pct? Do i need to go out and get an ai to run with it?

Thanks.

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18 Mar 2011 10:33 #63807 by 00pump

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Well it depends on how much free estrogen you have circulating your body. Nolvadex / Clomid was never intended to block the estrogen levels we can expect from a highly androgenic cycle. As the androgens lower so will chances of elevated estrogen. So if you have waited the correct time to start PCT (as noted in our article section / PCT) then you can comfortably get away with Nolva and Clomid. However if you adding in hCG you are going to probably have to add in an AI if you are sensitive to estrogen, which may be your case.

However, like I said its not noticeable so don't fret, you might find that after your PCT is over, all is leveled out. Just pay special attention in future cycles, to have correct estrogen control

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