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Is Diet sufficient for Ketosis
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Is this diet sufficient to get into ketosis and is meal spacings adequate? Thanx in advance.
(P = Protein; C = Carbs; F = Fat; Cal = Calories; everything measured in grams)
Meal One 07:00 am:
5 x large eggs P = 31.5 C = 3 F = 26.5 Cal= 377
25g Black pepper feta cheese P = 6 C = 0.4 F = 8.3 Cal= 100
Meal Two 10:30 am:
170g (raw weight) lean beef mince P= 48 C= 0 F= 27.4 Cal=439
25g Black pepper Feta cheese P = 6 C = 0.4 F = 8.3 Cal= 100
Meal Three 12:30 pm:
1 can Tuna in water P= 40.6 C= 0 F= 5.1 Cal=208
100g white button mushrooms P= 2.1 C= 3.3 F= 0 Cal= 22
50g Gouda cheese P= 12.4 C= 1.1 F= 13.7 Cal= 177
2 tsp Flax seed Oil P= 0 C= 0 F= 18.4 Cal= 166
Meal Four 15:00 pm:
100g chicken fillet P= 31 C= 0 F= 3.6 Cal= 156
1 tsp Flax seed Oil P= 0 C= 0 F= 9.2 Cal= 83
Meal Five 18:30 pm:
220g (raw weight) Steak P= 68.1 C=0 F= 13.7 Cal= 397
50g Brocolli Flowers P= 1.5 C= 2.6 F= 0.2 Cal= 18
50g Gouda cheese P= 12.4 C= 1.1 F= 13.7 Cal= 177
Meal Six 21:00 pm:
ON Whey Shake P= 24 C= 4 F= 1 Cal= 121
Totals for day
Protein= 284.1 Ratio 45%
Carbs = 15.9 Ratio 3%
Fats = 149 Ratio 52%
Calories = 2540
g protein / lb bodyweight = 1.25
This is a typical day I am happy with the foods tastes are not bad. Can easily stay strict on the diet.
Any advice will be appreciated. And this keto will be done while on cutting cycle. :munch
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Other than that the diet is pretty solid, you could maybe dump the cheese for peanut butter but thats just me.
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Where did you get that diet from???
Like deadgoat said...Maybe just some peanut butter... with your shake before bed???
Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...
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Dj can one substitute the cheese with macadamias? how much carbs does macadamias give you?
I will keep the cheese with the tuna, as i have a shit load of tuna but HATE the taste. the cheese, mushrooms and alot of tobasco makes it eatable. Any other comments? Diet good or no good?
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Just to get it right the cheat meal will be 1 hour following previous threads and replies by dj. How much carbs should be consumed avg? and the cheat meal can it be something you are craving or must it solely be carbs rich? like Sweet potato or pastas and so fourth? Cheat meal is next sunday.
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Just to get it right the cheat meal will be 1 hour following previous threads and replies by dj. How much carbs should be consumed avg? and the cheat meal can it be something you are craving or must it solely be carbs rich? like Sweet potato or pastas and so fourth? Cheat meal is next sunday.
Thanx guys
You store roughly 400g of glycogen in your muscles and 100g of glycogen in your liver. Muslce glycogen is always replaced before liver glycogen, so keep the carbs at round about 300g when you cheat and you won't go out of ketosis. Overshoot this mark and you'll spend three days burning through your liver glycogen before you start burning fat again.
NEVER HAVE FRUCTOSE WITH THE CHEAT MEAL IT WILL KNOCK YOU STRAIGHT OUT OF KETOSIS.
A good trick take at least 2-3g of Alpha Lipoic Acid at the start of the cheat meal it will ensure that muscle glycogen is replaced before liver glycogen.
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dave i disagree with u about the only having 300g of carbs,the whole point is to super compensate the muscle full of glycogen and drive leptin levels up,now if u are only replenishing what your body needs u will never make leptin rise,i do remember when i read some of the keto threads online they recommended 10g of carbs per kg of bodyweight over a 24 hour period,so a gut with an 80kg lbm should have 800g of carbs,but u will also need to try and keep your fats at 0g and protein the same as the whole diet...that being said,try force that down in 1 meal u will be sick,thats why i like the whole idea of skip loading,where u work on hours instead of grams etc. start the cheat with 3 hours. so if u are going to start your cheat meal at 6pm at night eat once at 6pm (keeping this mostly carbs,minimal fats and protein as this slows down digestion and often makes u feel sick) then again at 9pm where u have carbs fats and protein... i have done this with lots of guys and it works really well...give it a try and see how u find it
There is no right or wrong here. I assume what you are referring to is a clean carb up on a CKD. A CKD is designed to build muscle and burn fat. If you are following a Palumbo style keto diet, which is a cutting diet, you will lose three days of fat burning if you consume too many carbs.
I've read most of Palumbo's Q&A's on RXmuscle, he says that the cheat is not a free for all and it's not clean carb up and try keep carbs to no more than 300g.
Either way try giving the mega-dose alpha lipoic acid a try.
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So lets say taking 300g of carbs in one sitting or even a 1000g what kind of foods do you eat. Keep it real clean or take something dirty. Lets take example sunday evening 7pm what would be a Cheat meal. Sorry for the questions guys dont want to lose whole 2 weeks of dieting. As With dj's skip loading with minimal fats and the second with fats? the main thing is hahaha i would like some examples of meals if possible?
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Bite off more than u can chew,then chew like hell!
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I agree with Dj and it is also the way i understand it. I was in the good zone(purple) and had to have a cheat meal. I had a 2 burgers and the next morning,I didnt go out if the purple zoen. Still save. However,Put some fructose or sucrose in there and bam! out of the zone and back to square 1.i have to rely on my cardio at this stage to burn that extra bit. Lean now,but the shredded look stil feels soooo far away it hurts my head..
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Sucrose shouldn't knock you out of ketosis, fructose will, so will gluconeogenic amino acids like glutamine.
Try the mega dose alpha lipoic acid thing, it works. I managed to keep my strips purple for three days doing this and i ate waffles, ice cream, pizza etc.
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I eat my last Carb meal at 4:00p.m.
Then comes the fun "Insulin"
I use Humalog to go into Ketosis quickly so i do not have to go through 3 days of hell? I am 180cm at 90kgs, 9%bf
I use 2 iu every 2 hours for a total of 4 shots, starting at my 4pm carb meal. This is just a running start toward ketosis. Dont go to sleep within 2 hours of an injection and be prepard to eat some carbs if you think you f-*cked up and your blood sugar levels are too low.
When you wake up the next morning your in Ketosis. Now you need to use you diet to stay there.
This is not for everyone but neither is anapolon :laugh:
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With everything you do comes a risk, as long as you know what you are doing. Just dont be giving the inexperienced such advice, give your feedback but make it clear that its not for the inexperienced
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