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Circuit Training To Get in Ketosis Faster
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It makes sense as your heart rate is elevated, you will be using up liver glycogen for fuel. Using your muscles on the machines will deplete muscle glycogen.
It's a full body workout so that you can deplete most of your muscles, and then start drawing glycogen from your liver to fuel your muscles.
I'm sure Super-Circuit (incorporating the steps) will work even better.
What do you think?
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Glycogen is usually depleted in two days or so even without training...but hey if you have the energy at the start of keto to train then go ahead.
At the start of keto you usually have the most energy, as your glycogen stores are full.
Just remeber that at the start of keto, your body hasn't switched metabolic pathways yet, so if you use up all glycogen and your body is not utilising stored bosy fat as an energy source yet then you are going to burn into muscle
That's what ketostix are for, as soon as they turn purple, i drop the intensity.
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Beesting wrote:
Glycogen is usually depleted in two days or so even without training...but hey if you have the energy at the start of keto to train then go ahead.
At the start of keto you usually have the most energy, as your glycogen stores are full.
Yes glycogen stores are full, what I meant was when you start, your body feels kak so not everyone will want to train but if you can then great
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Just remeber that at the start of keto, your body hasn't switched metabolic pathways yet, so if you use up all glycogen and your body is not utilising stored bosy fat as an energy source yet then you are going to burn into muscle
That's what ketostix are for, as soon as they turn purple, i drop the intensity.
They aren't always accurate so you might be in ketosis and the stix wont indicate you are so you might be burning some muscle, they are just a guide
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i never ever test positive with keto stix...yet i seem to have every other sign under the sun to state i am in ketosis,yet if i was to base it on the silly stix i would never be in ketosis..
Think about it. Ketostix were developed to test for Ketoacidosis a LIFE THREATENING condition. Bayer would have been sued for hundreds of millions of dollars if they weren't accurate.
In the US, there is a brand of Ketostix called Lipostix - they measure the degree of lipolysis you're in. The darker they are the more fat you're burning
What people don't realise is that it is possible for your metabolism to function in a combination of glycolysis and lipolysis. If your strips aren't turning, you're still mainly functioning in glycolysis (even if your carbs are zero, protein can be converted into glycogen). You may have lost water weight and your breath may smell like acetone, you're in ketosis sure, but the degreee to which is very slight, and i can guarantee you you're not losing fat as fast as you would if they were turning.
KETOSTIX ARE THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL WHEN FOLLOWING A KETOGENIC DIET FOR FAT LOSS, AND THEY ARE HIGHLY ACCURATE.
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KETOSTIX ARE THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL WHEN FOLLOWING A KETOGENIC DIET FOR FAT LOSS, AND THEY ARE HIGHLY ACCURATE.
I disagree but I won't argue with you. The stix may be accurate as the reaction that occurs is very specific but keep in mind that various factors will influence the result you visualize on the stix so in turn the result is not accurate but is rather just an indication of the degree of ketosis which you would use just as a guide but it's not essential when following a ketogenic diet. The stix weren't designed for people so that they could follow keto diets
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I dont disagree fully but like DJ havent had great success in using them - not that i keto myself i would rather die but have tried using them with clients in the past who also show every sign under the sun and follow rigorously and still come up negative, think Bee is right only really effective in our application when used as a guide??
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...but have tried using them with clients in the past who also show every sign under the sun and follow rigorously and still come up negative, think Bee is right only really effective in our application when used as a guide??
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Let me repeat myself then :
"What people don't realise is that it is possible for your metabolism to function in a combination of glycolysis and lipolysis. If your strips aren't turning, you're still mainly functioning in glycolysis (even if your carbs are zero, protein can be converted into glycogen). You may have lost water weight and your breath may smell like acetone, you're in ketosis sure, but the degreee to which is very slight."
Your clients were converting dietary protein into glycogen. This is science, not like my opinion. Don't believe me, i'll repost this study then :
www.medbio.info/Horn/PDF%20files/liver%20glycogen%20exp.pdf
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Since these Stix had a purpose for development what is the danger limit with regards to time on how long such a diet becomes unhealthy or dangerous? How long do Pro's normally spend time doing such a diet?
www.thelowcarbgrocery.com/resources-ketosis.php
"Ketosis is a metabolic state, more accurately called benign dietary ketosis. Ketosis is a perfectly safe bodily function.
Benign dietary ketosis is often confused with the dangerous metabolic state called "ketoacidosis", which may occur in Type 1 diabetics with very high blood sugar or in severe alcoholics after a binge."
You can live your whole life in ketosis, the Inuit used to.
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Joey wrote:
Since these Stix had a purpose for development what is the danger limit with regards to time on how long such a diet becomes unhealthy or dangerous? How long do Pro's normally spend time doing such a diet?
www.thelowcarbgrocery.com/resources-ketosis.php
"Ketosis is a metabolic state, more accurately called benign dietary ketosis. Ketosis is a perfectly safe bodily function.
Benign dietary ketosis is often confused with the dangerous metabolic state called "ketoacidosis", which may occur in Type 1 diabetics with very high blood sugar or in severe alcoholics after a binge."
You can live your whole life in ketosis, the Inuit used to.
Interesting indeed! So is it true then that if you have been in Ketosis for a very long time that once you start consuming carbs again your body will just discard them as it somehow got used to only burning fat. Basically "your body doesn't know what to do with the carbs" anymore! Sry for asking but thats what I've picked up at www.elitefitness.com/forum ...
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