Waxymaise

DJ wrote:

vega depends on the type of cardio u are doing,if u are doing HIIT then personally i feel that dextrose will be good...have the WMS pre cardio and the dextrose post..

I've always been a fan of low intensity training. Is this even on a carb cycling diet (fat loss) and the cardio will be done in the afternoon?

DJ wrote:

vega depends on the type of cardio u are doing,if u are doing HIIT then personally i feel that dextrose will be good...have the WMS pre cardio and the dextrose post..

would a good post workout drink be a mixture of dextrose, creatine, glutamine and the whey protein from LSJ with oats?...or should you skip the oats?

post = short acting carbs...

00pump wrote:

post = short acting carbs...

Post cardio on a fat loss diet Pump?

Heres an intersting article I found regarding WMS. Props to DJ for recommending dextrose post work out. Basically they are saying that WMS provides even less than white bread when restoring glycogen levels....but it is interesting to note the conclusion on Virtago...

www.musculardevelopment.com/component/co...craze.html?showall=1

low intensity is the way forward IMHO. cardio done post work out?? if so then do your cardio then have your PWO shake..

yes, or cardio morning before breakfast.. as DJ said, low intense.

djeasye wrote:

i have read studies from will brink who is like the supplement worlds myth buster... waxy maise starch is effective as a complex low gi carb replacement for meals. plain and simple,so taking it before work outs is like having a bowl of oats which is cool as u want sustained energy for your work out.. i think its point less taking it post work out as it doesnt spike insulin levels which help in replenishing glycogen stores... yes it might exit the stomach at 70% faster than dextrose but it has no effect on insulin levels to help shuttle the nutrients to the muscle... so yes pre work out it is a good option,post work out stick to vitargo and dextrose..

Did'nt that guy also say that in studies having a loaf of bread basically had a better effect?

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/waxy_maize_starch_myth.htm

DJ wrote:

low intensity is the way forward IMHO. cardio done post work out?? if so then do your cardio then have your PWO shake..

I do cardio in the afternoon and weights in the morning.

then have your normal meals pre and post work out,i would not have carbs post cardio if u are doing cardio in the afternoon...

Perfect thanks

ABC01 wrote:

djeasye wrote:

i have read studies from will brink who is like the supplement worlds myth buster... waxy maise starch is effective as a complex low gi carb replacement for meals. plain and simple,so taking it before work outs is like having a bowl of oats which is cool as u want sustained energy for your work out.. i think its point less taking it post work out as it doesnt spike insulin levels which help in replenishing glycogen stores... yes it might exit the stomach at 70% faster than dextrose but it has no effect on insulin levels to help shuttle the nutrients to the muscle... so yes pre work out it is a good option,post work out stick to vitargo and dextrose..

Did'nt that guy also say that in studies having a loaf of bread basically had a better effect?

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/waxy_maize_starch_myth.htm

than wms? yep...not a loaf but white bread in general :laugh: