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11 Mar 2010 15:40 #39463 by BB_guy
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N3rd wrote:

I get shaky and hot on 4mg of salbutamol... (roughly = to 40mcg clen)
And I'm not sensitive to any stimulant...


Im not 100% sure bit I think Salbutamol is equal to roughly half that of Clen. "A.Rob" did an article in M.E some time ago, and I think he spoke about 240mcg Salbutamol being equal to 120mcg of Clen (Im not certain though :-) maybe somebody can confirm this)
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11 Mar 2010 16:51 #39486 by N3rd
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Mmhhh....
Maybe he said that because of salbutamol's shorter half life.
But I get good results and have never gone above 8mg, anyway I don't think I could.
I'd be too hot and shaky to even type...

Don't want to start an argument but DJ also mentioned it being used in the 4-12mg range.
But if anybody wants to try 24mg, I'd caution them greatly to do so!
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11 Mar 2010 17:23 #39487 by BB_guy
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I have worked my way up to 6, 4mg tabs and stayed at that dose for 1 and a half weeks, no probs, usual sides, shakes and increase in appetite, very little thermo effect for me.
IM not saying guys must use this dose!!! Agree on the caution part.
HA HA maybe I've been OD'ing....
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11 Mar 2010 17:27 #39488 by N3rd
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BB_Guy...
The Salbuta-monster LOL :laugh:
:)

Sorry for high-jacking crazyhorse, but...

BB_guy, what were your fat loss, strength and muscle gains like?

That's an insane dose, at 4-8mg I feel like a walking glowstick! :silly:
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11 Mar 2010 17:45 #39489 by BB_guy
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HAHA AKA SM_guy

The first time I ran it, was 1 week on, 1 week off, repeated for about 4 weeks total "on" time. Started on sumin like a half tab and worked up to 3 or 4 tabs. Was dieting at the time, but honestly cant say it made fat loss any faster or easier than normal.
At the time, as far as I knew it was Clen... cause thats what I ordered. But I'm sure the bugger gave me Salbutamol ... Came in a Brontel bottle unsealed ....
The last time I ran it was summer 2008, but I was on cycle.
When I got to max dosage I was also peeking in my cycle, so I cant honestly say. I remember making nice gains in strength with military presses, but I cant be sure if it was the gear or Salbutamol.

After the first week the shakes get a lot less though. That first week is madness and I cant stand the shakes.
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16 Mar 2010 22:32 #39956 by J34N
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Hi guys, sorry if im hijacking! Just a quick question...

I've been on a ECA stack (clen, caff, eph) for a month now, cycling it 2days on/off...i've just finished that supply about a week ago and took 3mg of ketotifen every night since i've off. My question however, can i start my 2nd ECA stack (same as previous one) already and keep taking my ketotifen every 2nd night at 3mg? Will this keep my receptors fresh?

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16 Mar 2010 22:44 #39958 by N3rd
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Were you using Lava?
If so, then keep in mind that clen+eph will smack those receptors flat in no time at all.
Its best you take more than a month off to recover your receptors.
Avoid caffeine as much as possible too.
You may feel lethargic, use ginseng to help you cope for this month ;)

Ketotifen should preferably be used from the beginning to work best, from what I've heard.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, you sound really excited...

Next time, use either clen or eca, not both at once.
Most guys recommend running clen for 2-3weeks then eca for a week or so, which helps with the low energy feeling.
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16 Mar 2010 22:54 #39961 by J34N
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Thanx for the quick reply man! I dont know if im allowed to mention the name of the product but you've mentioned LAVA...nah its been mach5 hey, 2tabs a day, 2days on/off...

Well buddy my first contest is in 5weeks time from now so i dont really have a choice, gonna ride the ECA with Ketotifen 'till then, sorry if im ignorant but im sure you'll understand the importance and im sure it will give me some effect with the ketotifen? lets see how it goes, ill give feedback as it probly differs with everyone!

Ginseng? Can i use it with the stack and ketotifen and how will this help me if i do it this way?

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16 Mar 2010 23:01 #39962 by N3rd
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I find that ginseng helps me when I've used stimulants and it is my time off.
It just helps you recover, and lessens your physical need for eg. caffeine.
Use the ginseng when you stop with all of the stims...

In your case, go ahead with the ketotifen and mach5, you really don't have a choice...

Ps. can you give me some more info on this mach5 product?
Brand name, ingredient amounts, pics, links?
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16 Mar 2010 23:05 #39963 by N3rd
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But the clen+eca together downregulates your receptors too much...
I know you are kinda in a tight spot, but maybe get clen and eca separately and use them each for a week alternating.
Or, clen in the morning and eca mid-afternoon, whateva your flava :lol:
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16 Mar 2010 23:11 #39965 by J34N
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Thanx man, i appreciate your help a lot! Will get me some ginseng afterwards then :) gonna have a nice offseason without stimulants for a month and then 8weeks comp prep for provincial champs again! Gonna be a awesome year, gonna learn a lot due to that im still a year younger than all the competitors in my class, next year will be the big provincials for me!

I dont see any brand name on the bottle now...

Ephedrine HCL ...30mg
Caffeine Anhydrous ...250mg
White Willow Bark ...125mg
Clenbuterol ...20mcg

...this is per capsule...

Am i allowed to post a pic of it on here?
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16 Mar 2010 23:14 #39966 by J34N
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haha we all know what the missing link is in those ingredients for the ECA stack LOL :D
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16 Mar 2010 23:17 #39967 by N3rd
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You may post a pic.
I'm very curious, because I've never heard of it...
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16 Mar 2010 23:37 #39969 by J34N
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Here you go...sorry for the bad quality, crap phone... (File Removed)
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16 Mar 2010 23:43 #39970 by N3rd
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Thanx alot.
Although I can't read anything on there...

But I really appreciate the effort :)
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16 Mar 2010 23:59 #39971 by J34N
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haha ill type it out then :)

1) the left pic just says, MACH5, SPEED CAPS, 30 capsules
2) the middel pic is just 3 different studies indicating how all the substances promote fatloss etc.
3) and the pic on the right just lists the dosages that ive wrote above and how to cycle it (ie. 2 on/off etc.) and then obviously the warning at the bottom!

...enjoy, ive havent tried any other ECA before but this one sure works for me, i got attracted to it due to that its price is pretty good and it includes clen!
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17 Mar 2010 00:03 #39972 by N3rd
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Very much appreciated man,

Haha you were greedy... Thats why you took clen with eph.... :lol:

I wonder if its a local product?
Don't think so.

But anyway, good luck with the comp coming, hope your receptors stay fresh enough for you to come in diced! :)
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17 Mar 2010 00:12 #39973 by J34N
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hahaha good one! :laugh: defnitely greedy!

As for the brand...ill ask my source, but it's pretty widely used around here in EC but you always get those oaks..."die goed werk nie, fokken mors van geld! Kom ouens, ons gan drink 'n bier na gym" :blink: ...if you know what im saying? lol :laugh:

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18 Mar 2010 00:47 #40181 by Inja
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Hey bro, if your still getting a buzz from the eph then the receptors are still firing. Are you still getting shakes from the clen? I imagine not as you should have suffered some downregulation. But if the eph is still waking you up to some degree your still getting a metabolism boost of sorts. When you feel nothing, you are getting nothing...
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18 Mar 2010 12:15 #40211 by J34N
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Hey inja! Yeah I'm still getting a bit of shakes hey but I wasn't too sensitive with the use of clen on my first time aswell, but defnitely getting then and espessialy after m 2nd pill of the day which is 3hours after 1st one!

As for the caffeine, well no downregulating obviously, but defnitely not that 'lasy' feeling after you come off anymore!

And I get the same feeling at night again, heartrate not resting when I go to sleep and still seems to be elevated during the night as I'm waking up more than usual with the eph!

...As for the effects, I already got the bottle so even ifi just a boost with the caff it'll help!
...Bit of a tight spot for me at the moment, wish I could've done it difrently, but I'm sure the ketotifen will help! I'm still taking 5mg every night nw but from monday will be going on 3mg EOD, trying my mom for another bottle so that I cn go 5mg ever night! Lol :P
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03 Jun 2010 12:40 #45731 by Roozer
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Hey guys another quicky, with the use of LP clen drops.

With the betasleep is it better to use it one week before the start of the clen cycle? I am going to hit a keto diet aswell. And i have generic reverzine 20ml bottle. What will be the best to use this 2 substances, 2 weeks on clen switch over to the rever, or do i hit both. Never used the rever, used clen a couple of times but just 2 on 1 off.
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03 Jun 2010 13:33 #45734 by missiondh
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No need to cycle it as you have betasleep. With regards to reverzine, as far as I know you can use both. Receptors may get a beating but thats what betasleep is for.
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03 Jun 2010 13:33 #45735 by Sting
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Well it depends when the last time was that u were on stimulants and what stimulants u were on. Use them together

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03 Jun 2010 13:50 #45736 by Roozer
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Well i trained one year completely clean no stimulants nothing just whey protein not even creatine hahaha. So receptors are good to go okay so no cycling check gonna hit it 4-5 weeks not to long. what is the recommended dosage on the betasleep using both rev and clen

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03 Jun 2010 14:44 #45739 by missiondh
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I use the caps, I take 2 before bedtime. Should be more than sufficient. Shot bud!
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