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i would be adding anavar from 6 weeks out. and you can use tren from 6 weeks out too.
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you got a lot of work to do, and this is where people dont have the grit they need to get into condition, I have learned how suffering feels and what you need to do to get PEELED to the bone, and trust me, that is basically feeling like death for 6 days a week, even on 2700 calories for me, i feel like death when i prep cos i push the limits. conditioning takes suffering.
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If I do everything correctly and I don't get in shape on-time, I can forgive myself. I won't forgive myself if I don't go all-out.
I feel like sh*t on my current calorie load, but I am ready for it. I will start the carb cycling tomorrow as suggested, which scares the sh*t out of me, but LET'S DOOOO IT!!
Empire, I can't thank you enough dude, I am doing this completely alone. My wife has my back but I don't have coaches or training partners going through this with me. So thank you bro.
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Tren will make people shout at trees because they are green. No other reason, it's a whole new ball game.
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But f-it. I want to see where my limits are. So I'm buckled in, stiff-upper lip, listening to experienced gents such as yourself and not fooling myself thinking this will be easy.
If it was easy it wouldn't be worth it right?
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Well done on the gain, but you gotta understand it is another level. People like tren and they can handle it, but when it comes to super low cals, depletion, lack of sleep, it's all a bitch compounded 1000.
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You've put in 3 years of work so you might as well try tren now pre comp.
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Just be on the look out for sides and be aware of them.
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I have spoken with my wife about this. Luckily I'm not sissie, been through hell and completely changed my life around a couple of years ago. So keen on this challenge.
You are gentlemen and scholars! I will post updates and pics. Let's see where this goes.
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with this poise, the hand you are grabbing ,you are trying to face your palm to the floor, flip your hand over so the back of the hand is facing the floor, and your fingers will be easier to grip, straighten the elbow to flex the tricep hard and focus on pulling that hand away from your body like a side raise, but the hand at the back will be pulling it back, that way your shoulder will pop, your tricep will pop and it will feel comfortable.
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plant your feet into the ground and try and drive your knees and heels apart, this will feel strange, it is like if you were to let you feet off the floor you would be abducting your legs out straight. big deep breathe into the chest, exposing your lats.
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lock your knee and have your toes off the ground and your heel on the ground.breathe out and crunch down card on the abs, keep your breathing all in the chest.
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feet in line with one another, not a staggered stance, and focus on pushing those knees and feet out whilst your feet are drilled into the ground. that will bring out cuts on both quads at the same time, unless you kick your one foot into the but keeping your feet in line with one another, remember all your weight would be on the one leg.
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I introduced Tren Ace and Winstrol 50 yesterday. Did 10km on the treadmill. 30min fasted stepmill this morning with Yohimbine and caffeine. The Yohimbine is much more tolerable than Clen. ECA stack later in the day. Performance in the gym was much better today. I was rowing the 70kg dumbbells very clean and controlled. Today was a low carb day (100g), tomorrow will be as well.
Thanks for the feedback DJ. Follow your advice to the T.
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I would have started at 25mg of Winstrol and upped it as I went along after a couple weeks, and personally would have chosen anavsr over winstrol but it is done and you will see results never the less.
Keep us updated.
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I understand what you are saying about genetics. Neither do I. But hard work beats talent, if talent doesn't work hard. And I suppose we can enjoy the journey without being Mr Olympia and still get the character development that comes with it.
I would be stoked to get to your level though.
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I need to focus on my angles (standing off line) and keeping my waist sucked-in. He really helped my bring out my strengths. I have another lesson next Saturday and will take my training partner with me to record the session, so he can correct me on my daily posing practice.
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I did fat caliper reading again today. Fat reduced significantly on pecs, bis, tris, suprailiac but fat around my naval and quads are still the same. I knew the belly fat would be a bitch, but obviously my quads are stubborn too. Forearms and chest circumference grew a bit too, which is great.
Lots of work to do still but getting after it.
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I didn't hit the gym today (after training 11 days straight). Work kept me busy with max 5 hours sleep at night. Not ideal.
I have stayed low carb for about 13 days now. My weight isn't dropping much but the fat on my arms and especially abdomen is definitely getting less. The skin around my naval is starting look and feel "loose". I hope that it will tighten up and adapt to my new dimensions soon.
I feel very depleted and my pumps suck at the gym. 3 days ago I had 3 rice cakes and 100g oats pre workout and couldn't believe the effect it had on my performance and pump. It was amazing. Posing is going well but I struggle to control my abdomen on the side tricep pose still.
Yesterday I added more salt to my food, to see if it would help with performance at all. Now I've got some serious water retention to get rid of. Popped half an adco-retin and some Arimidex. So should be better soon. Will go back to moderate salting.
Vascularity is getting more pronounced even with the depletion. Strenght is still surprisingly good. Cardio capacity took a hard knock from the Tren. The stairmaster is kicking my ass much more than usual. The Yohimbine is well tolerated and definitely makes me feel as if my body is expending more calories during cardio.
Second posing session this Saturday with the coach. I'll take some pics and share with you guys.
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So water retention will most likely from increased cortisol levels from high training stress and no rest, and from yohimbine making you retain water. when you burn adipose fatty tissue the skin can seem "Squishy" from extra fluid retention where the adiposite is situated, after a couple of days the water will "whoosh" from that area and you have this drop in fluid retention.
DO NOT DROP SALT FROM YOUR DIET AND KEEP IT AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE. before a show, I am on 20-25 grams of salt a day. no that is not a typo. You need sodium for muscle fullness and to transport potassium etc. water intake should be about 50mls per KG at this stage. So you wont have water retention at that level.
do not worry about water retention at this stage, the time you need to worry about water retention is the day of the show! that is it, which you should have a strategy in place for that. I don't cut water unless making weight, and fluid is till 6-9L the day before the show. remember it is manipulating water. Water transports carbs and electrolytes to the muscle, so please DO NOT start at 8L and go down to 500mls before a show. diuretics should be used as the icing on the cake, so half a diazide the night before the show is more than enough. You need water to fill out the muscle, so cutting water and increasing carbs is a shit show of an idea!
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My whole plan was to increase carbs moderately 3 days out and slowly decrease water 1 week out. So that whole protocol is on it's head. So much conflicting info, but your approach makes more logical sense to me. I will adjust.
I guess I need to change my typical bodybuilding mindset of "more is better" when it comes to training. It has been tough as hell the last week. The tren is a bit of a bitch as well, but I'm staying busy, so no time at all for mood-swings.
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So what do carbs need to full out a muscle? Water, Sodium and potassium. So why are you trying to get carbs into a muscle when water is low?
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