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Amesh's Diet Advice and Clen question
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There is synergy between clen and yohimbine but clen alone is potent stuff.
When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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Amesh wrote: What can i cycle it with to enhance fat burning?
Yohimbine.
But bud, need your stats and diet. No amount of fat burners can compensate for a crappy diet.
And fat burners should only really be used with that last little bit.
So tell us what you working with and then we can advise.
Also please open a new thread... You're posting in two different topics. Create your own, that way it's easy for you to go back and see what was said
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Meal 1 :
2 full eggs
100g lean beef steak
500ml water
Meal 2
40g whey protein powder
20g Peanut butter
500ml WATER
Meal 3
150g steak
2 cups mixed veg/green veg
500ml water
Meal 4
150g chicken
20g almonds
2 cups mixed veg/green veg
500ml water
Meal 5 (pre bed)
40g whey protein powder
20g Peanut butter
500ml WATER
Pre work out meal(30-45mins pre work out)
50g oats
30g raisins
Post work out
40g whey protein
10g glutamine
1 hour post training
170g chicken
1 cup mixed veg/green veg.
500ml water
NON WORK OUT DAYS
Meal 1
1 full eggs
100g lean beef steak
500ml water
Meal 2
40g whey protein
50g oats
Meal 3
160g chicken
1-2 cups mixed veg
Meal 4
40g whey protein
20g peanut butter
Meal 5
200g white fish
1 cup mixed veg/green veg.
500ml water
Meal 6
170g chicken
2 cups mixed veg/green veg
500ml water
Meal 7
40g whey protein powder
500ml WATER
Thats my diet, Yohimbine had an awful effect on my body, like sever cramps
ok i will create a new tread
Thanks a mil
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Run the clen with an ECA stack, like heat for instance.
When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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What are your stats Amesh? BF% unless your in single figures and already have abs you should forget the fat burners and wait until you are and actually need them .
Go big or go home...
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But Amesh read this: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...ow-about-clenbuterol
It's the best resource on clen and yohimbine.
Also a few other compounds are mentioned.
But please do Listen to Rhinos advice, and post your stats!
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ECA freaks me out with the slightest heart pain.
stats
1.73 m
83.4 kg
BF 19%
Visceral 9%
no abs just a ponch lol which i need to get rid of
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i am looking to cut down to 10%, hence the choice of advanced science so that i can get the desired effect quicker, after watching Bigger Stronger Faster i realized that an aesthetic body can only be achieved with hard work - discipline- diet and Juice
I know what i need in terms of bulking and what cycles to use etc, i have never "cut" before so that's why i need the advice and experiential knowledge you tried and tested so that i can learn easily, what do the pro's use after an off season bulk to get that immaculate shape?
Clen is what everybody raves about at my gym, together with winnie, but since i have joint issues in my cuffs i am not going to risk cycling clen and winnie
yeah fat burners never work on me, i have tried the over the counter stuff like oxy elite, hydroxy and cla with green tea caps and diet fuel, and i got no results, i tried mach 3 and yohimbine and that cramped me to an excruciating extent
i know cycling works better than a solo especially with 19% bf
Thank you for the guidance and taking time to help me bro, much appreciated
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Mason Might wrote: Based on your diet I wouldn't advise yohimbine as insulin completely blunts it's effect... Save it for a keto diet.
Run the clen with an ECA stack, like heat for instance.
Can someone use clen and yohimbine on a cyclical Keto Diet?
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Mason Might wrote: Your Bf% is too high to even consider fat burners. I'll look at your stats and diet when I get a chance... But diet alone should be more than enough for you to drop weight.
I agree with mason here. Probably not what you want to here but I would advise using the most powerful tool for losing bodyfat first which is diet and the second best tool which is exercise. Then once you hit a plateau bring these burners. I'd start with GHS then onto t3 then progress to clen if needs be.
You won't get best results just throwing it all in and hoping for overnight success.
Not what you want to hear though I doubt.
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I get your BMR at 2877kcal based on 5 training days a week (Harris Benedict Formula)
Now I used best case scenario for your diet and assumed you using peanut butter with no added sugar or salt. Lean topside steak, skinless chicken breast etc...
And I found you eating 2681 kcal per day.
Now a 20% deficit is OK at your BF so step 1. You need to adjust your diet, in my opinion you are eating too many calories a day to promote fat loss.
I would recommend you aim for 2300kcal, so put something together and we can tweak from there...
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Yohimbine is only rendered ineffective once insulin is released. So if once a week you have a carb up, the 6/7 days the yohimbine is in full force.
If your timing carbs around workouts yohimbine can still be effective but then you want to get it in first thing in the morning and do fasted cardio in the very least...
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Thanks bud. I've been reading the keto book. They suggested that in the CKD the carb up can be started 5 hours prior to the last workout 25-50g of carbs. Then 2 hours prior to last working, you can have a fruit for the glucose and fructose.Mason Might wrote: BMS yes you could...
Yohimbine is only rendered ineffective once insulin is released. So if once a week you have a carb up, the 6/7 days the yohimbine is in full force.
If your timing carbs around workouts yohimbine can still be effective but then you want to get it in first thing in the morning and do fasted cardio in the very least...
Now for a 5 day split training, does my carb up start on Friday 5 hours before gym? Then Saturday. I'm confused there.
The guys here suggest that carb up should be Sunday's last meal. Preferably do legs on Monday.
Please help there
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yeah i realized this is a marathon not a sprint in terms of attaining my desired look,
TRAINING DAYS
Meal 1 :
1 full egg
1 slice rye toast
1 apple
500ml water
Meal 2
40g whey protein powder
20g Peanut butter
500ml WATER
Meal 3
100g steak
1 cups mixed veg/green veg
500ml water
Meal 4
100g chicken
20g almonds
1 cups mixed veg/green veg
500ml water
Meal 5 (pre bed)
40g whey protein powder
20g Peanut butter
500ml WATER
Pre work out meal(30-45mins pre work out)
50g oats
30g raisins
Post work out
40g whey protein
10g glutamine
1 hour post training
170g chicken
1 cup mixed veg/green veg.
500ml water
NON WORK OUT DAYS
Meal 1
1 full eggs
100g lean beef steak
500ml water
Meal 2
40g whey protein
50g oats
Meal 3
100g chicken
1 cups mixed veg
Meal 4
40g whey protein
20g peanut butter
Meal 5
100g white fish
1 cup mixed veg/green veg.
500ml water
Meal 6
100g chicken
1 cups mixed veg/green veg
500ml water
Meal 7
40g whey protein powder
500ml WATER
my reviewed diet bro's please tell me if this is adequate
I just got Jay Cutlers undisputed full edition dvd :woohoo:
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Also whats the macros? Protein /Carbohydrates / Fats?
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Protein = 220
carbs = 60
fat = 22
i don't know what macro's are
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That looks good to me.
I'm a fan of keeping protein as high as possible when dieting down... So happy there.
Whichever 'day' that applies to, you can eat that way on both training and non training days...
Next step is to start a log. So weigh yourself on the day you start and give us weekly updates as to your weight BF, training etc. This way we can constantly tweak and monitor your progress. This will also be an invaluable resource when you do decide it's time to start AAS.
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will start logging now
i have the LP liquid clen already, going to start that today or tom morning
End of Jan next year i am hoping to start GH :lol:
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