What is considered a Cheat Meal

Sorry for the lack of info but I would rather ask than not know.

What is considered a cheat meal?

French Toast with cheese
Pizza
Double bacon and Cheese Burger
Milkshake

What is a total no go and what do you guys eat when it comes to cheat meal time?

Its all dependant on you. But best thing to do for a cheat meal is prepare it at home. And make sure u are having low protein and fat and high carb. So a pasta dish with a tomato base sauce with some chicken and some low fat frozen yoghurt is a good quality cheat meal.

My cheat meals are ridiculous at the moment and are considered refeeds. A refeed for me is a box of milo cereal a small steak with a large baked potato or a home made burger with air fried baked chips, 200-300g of woolies gummy sweets and about a liter of woolies sorbet. I was having that twice a week but have cut it down to once a week. I am able to do this because of the volume of training I am doing and cardio etc its to replenish glycogen stores and get leptin levels up and that for me only happens after about 500g of carbs in my meal.

A cheat meal is something u are Craving and is not a binge meal, use in moderation to satisfying cravings. If u have alot of body fat to loose, which u do have 1 cheat meal a week. When u get leaner and leaner like sub 10% u can have one every 5days. Then sub 8% once every 3 days

When I was @ around 15% bf I had 1 cheat meal per week which was still clean just high in carbs

Now I have a cheat day consisting of nearly anything my eyes see but I try and stay under 80grams of fat on this day and still manage to lose +- 1kg of fat per week,also a refeed as I only have 2.6g of carbs per day on the keto diet I'm on.but as DJ said all depends where your bf % level is and the type of training and cardio you do.IMO a cheat isn't necessary when on a fat loss diet with carbs daily,maybe for the mental aspect but still not a necessity

dj let me have a king steer burger once... I was feeling flat and quite shit. the day after that thing was amazeballs. felt nice and full, weight was up again and back on diet.

some days its just so beneficial to yourself. lifts the mood big time and keeps you sane

U are completely wrong Liftmeister. If u are in a calorie deficit u need to replenish glycogen stores and refuel your metabolism, i have no less than 200g of carbs a day currently and i still have over 2000g of carbs in a refeed/cheat meal and i still loose just over a kg a week. Be it a balanced diet, a high carb diet, a high fat and protein diet,as long as u are in a calorie deficit u still need to refeed/cheat once a week to above maintaince calories in order to boost leptin, and get the metabolism going again. So u can be on a diet with 60% carbs and as long as u are 500 calories below maintaince and doing cardio and training hard u are still going to need a cheat/refeed meal a week.

Poisoned pulse has a high carb day on legs day and a cheat meal a week on his diet and still get leaner, he is on a balanced diet with carbs in it too. So everyone needs one. The difference is people think cheat meal = binge as much as u want instead of eating until u are not hungry instead of eating till u are sick.

With a cheat meal the aim of the game is damage control. Exactly how much damage control to apply depends on how clean you have eaten during the week and what your goal is. For bulking I would keep it under 1500 cals and for cutting under 1000 cals. Remember at the end of the day the amount of calories you consume is what matters the most, so you need to adjust your other meals to compensate for the cheat meal. I do this by dropping fats from other meals. All the rules laid down, the day someone is going to tell me what I can eat for my cheat meal is the day I go to prison.

NB! A cheat meal is an essential part of any diet and should not be feared! Have your cheat meal the day before your most bad-ass training session of the week to take full advantage.

If u gave me a 1000 calorie cheat meal right now it wouldn't even touch sides at all.

Contest prep is a whole other animal and any advice given is only applicable to contest prep when specifically stating so.

I would actually go as far to say the lower your body temperature from 37degress should deem how much u need to feed, if u have been dieting long and your body temperature is low this is a sign of metabolic slow down. So a guy who has been doing to cut doing 30mins of cardio on a 500cal deficit can actually need way more than 1000 calories to get body temperature up again and get the metabolic rate firing. This will only really happening once u have loaded up on carbs and u start sweating during your meal. To cheat 2000 calories in a meal from low fat low protein carbs will fuel that metabolism and get the metabolic rate up. So using 1000calories as a measuring stick is not right. If someone has a body temp 36degrees it might take them close on 3000 calories to get that temperature up to 37 degrees or higher. The higher the temperature the more thermogenic the body

I think this is an extremely interesting topic and love to talk about it, just not with you DJ. I wish you well with your contest.

DJ wrote: U are completely wrong Liftmeister. If u are in a calorie deficit u need to replenish glycogen stores and refuel your metabolism, i have no less than 200g of carbs a day currently and i still have over 2000g of carbs in a refeed/cheat meal and i still loose just over a kg a week. Be it a balanced diet, a high carb diet, a high fat and protein diet,as long as u are in a calorie deficit u still need to refeed/cheat once a week to above maintaince calories in order to boost leptin, and get the metabolism going again. So u can be on a diet with 60% carbs and as long as u are 500 calories below maintaince and doing cardio and training hard u are still going to need a cheat/refeed meal a week.

Once again as in the other thread I don't think you read the posts properly before u respond lol

@AlexRon have a cheat meal if u like bro..personally I'd aim for 2 weeks no cheat and once you've adapted to the diet then incorporate a cheat,play around and see what works for you,There's lots of conflicting views on this subject but I've found self experimentation to be\have the ultimate answer

Pyroclasm wrote: I think this is an extremely interesting topic and love to talk about it, just not with you DJ. I wish you well with your contest.

Agreed

Liftmeister wrote: Once again as in the other thread I don't think you read the posts properly before u respond lol

Liftmeister wrote: IMO a cheat isn't necessary when on a fat loss diet with carbs daily,maybe for the mental aspect but still not a necessity

DJ wrote: U are completely wrong Liftmeister. If u are in a calorie deficit u need to replenish glycogen stores and refuel your metabolism, i have no less than 200g of carbs a day currently and i still have over 2000g of carbs in a refeed/cheat meal and i still loose just over a kg a week. Be it a balanced diet, a high carb diet, a high fat and protein diet,as long as u are in a calorie deficit u still need to refeed/cheat once a week to above maintaince calories in order to boost leptin, and get the metabolism going again. So u can be on a diet with 60% carbs and as long as u are 500 calories below maintaince and doing cardio and training hard u are still going to need a cheat/refeed meal a week.

I am not seeing the problem liftmeister? It seems DJ read your comment and replied to it accurately?

I was just gonna leave it cos I know I replied to a comment in his post. But glad u saw it chapel.

Advice on eating yogurt before bed, that ok or not? and spoon of peanut butter blackcat smooth?

back to the main question. a cheat meal for me is considered stuffing myself with whatever i want, until i am so full i could explode.

but hey, everyone is different