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www.biogen.co.za/products/iso-whey
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Whey Protein Hydrolysate, Concentrate and Isolate Blend, Maltodextrin, Cocoa Powder (Only in Choc Flavour), Flavouring, Stabilizer, Non-nutritive Sweetener Blend (Sucralose, Acesulfame-K), Colurant (Only in Strawberry flavor) . - See more at: www.biogen.co.za/products/iso-whey#sthash.2G8pUMgI.dpuf
Is this stuff ok or just not up to stratch
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AlexRon wrote: Thanks Rhino, any thing you could suggest for me to be taking then instead?
more food bro
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How much more food am I to eat bud?
DJ is saying this stuff is crap... ffs
DJ, just a note, im not using this one, the one im using is not on the site, its called Premium...
Its this one:
dischemonline.co.za/product-view/24346/b...nilla/path/96_97_200
Anyways, I think what im seeing here is that this stuff is cheap crap and I should try BSSA, but which ones am I to purchase?
Advice please
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Muscleaddict wrote: It says Iso and Premium so it must be good :ohmy: .
Part of being new to all of this yes....
Thanks for the advice
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I would love to get some new measurements and body fat perce taken but not sure where to go for this, I asked my Doc this morning and he said he does not do it..
I finished my cycle about 2 weeks ago, haven't started my PCT's yet, that starts tomorrow, in 6 weeks I put on 5kg
Ive been eating as clean as I can, so not sure how much fat this is or water, the truth is im very lost on all of this and still trying to understand it all.
Eat carbs, don't eat carbs, cycle carbs, do cardio, don't do cardio, everyone seems to provide me with info that does not match..
Its really simple, yet hard
I want to put on some muscle and lose the fat..
Im eating 3500 cal a day - clean
I gym 6 days a week and push as hard as I can
What more is there to it
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If u are scheduling 7 meals a day in your diet (post work out meal and 6 other meals) and u are eating every 3 hours and u arent getting hungry and feel like getting a meal in is a chore then u are over eating. U need to cut back on the food, get your metabolism racing by doing cardio and once u are hitting a meal every 2 hours then add in more calories to each meal.
Training 6 days a week is counter productive, u need to rest at least 2 days a week. Be it 2 days in a row or after every 2-3 days of training taking a rest is vital. 3 days of rest is better as u grow muscle when u are recovering and sleeping.
Don't over do the volume in your training if u are trying to put on muscle. Do 3-4 exercises and 3-4 sets per exercise at 6-10 reps per set. U should be using a weight light enough u can get at least 6 reps but a weight heavy enough u can't get more than 10.
The lower volume,higher intensity work outs will get your metabolic rate going to.
Remember to stick to compound movement first then isolation. So squats and leg press and deadlifts then go to leg extensions and hamstring curls etc. Yes I have said deadlift in your leg routine!
Keep a log book, each week make sure u are getting more reps or heavier weight for each set of the exercise! This forces progression.
For food : work out your maintaince calories and minus 500 calories, split that up into 7 meals. Try no more than 3 shake meals. Ear every 2-3 hours. U will see that by the time 2 hours comes u will eventually be so ravenous u can't wait to get a meal in. Thats when your metabolic rate is going so then u add more calories to each meal.
Hope that helps
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Same product,just one line gets a USN sticker and the other line gets a Biogen.
Stick with 1.Nutritech or 2.SSN
If its worth doing, its worth doing properly.
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hahahahhahahahaha. sorry but its just the best
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morning77 wrote: no, stick with Optimum whey. period.
hahahahhahahahaha. sorry but its just the best
You have to take out a 2nd mortgage on your house to be able to afford optimum in this country.
If its worth doing, its worth doing properly.
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Cocaine is cheaper than ON. :blink:morning77 wrote: no, stick with Optimum whey. period.
hahahahhahahahaha. sorry but its just the best
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DJ wrote: Ok first things first. If u are not a big eater add 20mins of cardio every morning before breakfast, after a week or two u will see your hunger pick up.
If u are scheduling 7 meals a day in your diet (post work out meal and 6 other meals) and u are eating every 3 hours and u arent getting hungry and feel like getting a meal in is a chore then u are over eating. U need to cut back on the food, get your metabolism racing by doing cardio and once u are hitting a meal every 2 hours then add in more calories to each meal.
Training 6 days a week is counter productive, u need to rest at least 2 days a week. Be it 2 days in a row or after every 2-3 days of training taking a rest is vital. 3 days of rest is better as u grow muscle when u are recovering and sleeping.
Don't over do the volume in your training if u are trying to put on muscle. Do 3-4 exercises and 3-4 sets per exercise at 6-10 reps per set. U should be using a weight light enough u can get at least 6 reps but a weight heavy enough u can't get more than 10.
The lower volume,higher intensity work outs will get your metabolic rate going to.
Remember to stick to compound movement first then isolation. So squats and leg press and deadlifts then go to leg extensions and hamstring curls etc. Yes I have said deadlift in your leg routine!
Keep a log book, each week make sure u are getting more reps or heavier weight for each set of the exercise! This forces progression.
For food : work out your maintaince calories and minus 500 calories, split that up into 7 meals. Try no more than 3 shake meals. Ear every 2-3 hours. U will see that by the time 2 hours comes u will eventually be so ravenous u can't wait to get a meal in. Thats when your metabolic rate is going so then u add more calories to each meal.
Hope that helps
DJ - thanks for much for the help, best advice ive been given since I started training, really feel like now I have something to work from...
Just a note, on Tuesday night I was 95.1kg, this morning I'm 93kg, feeling a bit depressed by this as I look better heavier, being tall and thin just don't work...
Started my PCT's today....
2 things
1 - You mention meal shake, what should I purchase as I don't have this?
2 - Where can I go to get body fat and measurements done please?
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2. Gym instructor at the gym ?
looks like I bought a door stopper last month
read the above by DJ Mozie
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mike123 wrote: 2. Gym instructor at the gym ?
That's one of the issues I have, don't think any of them know how...properly
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How tall are u? Cos in your avatar u have a lot of body fat to loose.
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Would the SSN be my 2 meal shakes for the day? (11am and 2pm?) I see protein and meal shakes as diff things, correct me please
At the mo I take 1 scoop whey (Morning77 - yes the plat one!!) with 200ml water
in the morning when I wake - 6am
another at 11am
another after gym - 8pm
another as I go to bed - 10pm
I am 1.9m tall
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