Diet strategy on Equi cycle.

So Ive got this idea in my head,
..that it may be possible on an Equi cycle to possibly run a small caloric deficit in order to achieve lean gains.
Maybe in the region of 200 to 400 calories per day under normal BMR guidelines,
keeping protein at around the 300 mark daily, and macro ratios accordingly (in my case 45P:35C:20F).
what are your thoughts on this..??

Most here will agree that physically its not possible to gain muscle when at a deficit. Plus why would you run equi (which increases appetite) while trying to eat at a deficit.

But back to the calories- rather stay at a small surplus. Unless your diet is really bad i cant see why you cant drop bf and build muscle at surplus calories while on cycle.

Well I tried to time it that I detoxed liver and had a training break before I started my new cycle.
During this off training period I notice that I naturally eat less, around 400 calories pd less.
My mn ratio changes to 50P:25C:25F , but I hold the 300gr protein pd goal.
and I noticed my conditioning becoming better... i.e.: dropping those ultra stubborn belly fat deposits.
Very slowly but my abs were definitely showing the difference.. I lost a little size definitely but not majorly.
Now that Im on cycle and back up to normal eating quotas it occurred to me that if the gear kept my gains moving upward then perhaps a slight caloric deficit would help continue that fat loss without having to overeat now and then strip away later on into my cycle with clen and yoh....

im starting my cycle in a month. goal is to lose fat and add some lean mass. diet will be a small surplus, 100-200 calories, with fasted cardio in the mornings. if you get your diet sorted and training intensely you can do it.

it would also depend on how much fat you want to lose and how much lean mass you would like to add. you arent going to turn into a monster and get shredded at the same time.

MRfeathers wrote: you arent going to turn into a monster and get shredded at the same time.

yeah probably not hey...

why not try some test and anavar? get some clen and reverzine and use it during your bridge to lean out?

MRfeathers wrote: why not try some test and anavar? get some clen and reverzine and use it during your bridge to lean out?

Similar has been suggested for my bridge yes,
Havnt made up my mind yet, was just going to run test cyp 14 days longer.
But thats an idea, I've already paid for the yohimbe and have clen but dont really like using it..
need to research reverzine, know nothing about it.

reverzine is injectable yohimbine

If u want to retain the muscle u have and burn fat your theory would work ...u might even put on a little but not as much as if u increased calories....but as prog says the equi will increase appetite....

Keep it in a surplus in my opinion, if you worried, keep it 200 odd calories over, but make sure you eat clean, and you will lean out and possibly grow, I'm in pretty heavy surplus right now, but squeaky clean diet, and I'm leaning out and growing, win win .... But to be honest, everyone is different, so he said she said isn't going to determine this, take time, a cycle if need be, and try both methods ?.

MRfeathers wrote: reverzine is injectable yohimbine

oh yes I have seen it, but Ive purchased tabs already.
Im only on week 2 of 16 weeks so plenty of time still, need to think about leaning out on about week 10ish.
Is reverzine massively more effective?, its about double+ the price.

mike123 wrote: If u want to retain the muscle u have and burn fat your theory would work ...u might even put on a little but not as much as if u increased calories....but as prog says the equi will increase appetite....

appetite is a bother yes , but manageable I find.
I think it might work bcos of the thick quality of muscle you put on with equi.

You'll lean out but without a decent surplus you ain't going to grow. What little bit of muscle you think you've gained on cycle you'll lose as soon as your blood count drops.
I wouldn't waist a cycle by being to lazy to cut first and use the cycle to load on quality muscle once I'm below 13, but that's me I take jiuce to pick up muscle...

Thanks for the response people, some valid points made.