What a f*^%**^~€* waste

Hey all,

How do you convince someone who asks for help thatbhe WILL NOT EVER grow more muscle than fat on the following diet:

Around 6-8 am - 4 slices toast with rama and a cup of cremora'ed coffee
Around 12:30 - 1 packet noodles (the 2 minute type)
Around 16:00 - double portion cottage pie / half a kilo pap and double portion wors/vleis/chicken ala cream followed by a chocolate (usually 100g slab and preferably Cadbury's [wtf ... Picky, eh?])
Around 8 pm - half a big packet of Simba chips or Frito's
Around 10 pm - 2-4 slices white bread with rama, pb and syrup with coffee and milk, full cream

He is built like a pear and cannot understand why he is not improving even though he does 20 min cardio every day mo-fri and pomp die ysters mon, wed and fri with a standard split routine.

I have told him that it needs to change, but his cousin eats similiar to him and is built like the front end of an old F-250 (according to him)

lol.. This is honestly a first for me.

Best you can do is bombard him with info showing why his diet is shit, maybe direct him here.

I sent him the link and asked him to register and come to school here. I am by no means whatsoever a diet fundi, but I know how to calculate BMR and work around that with healthy sugars and fats and carbs and proteins... But heavens, that is honestly one of the worst diets I have ever heard.

Hmm, must be careful in a radical shift in diet, if that is what his body is used too.

That is seriously not a healthy persons eating plan. Does he suffer depression at all?

if somebody is in denail..thats what will happen

If he does not admit his eating is "helping his fat"...then there is nothing you can.. well except give him more info to read untill he comes to his senses.. i guess.

Well...

Pretty simple. Ask him to name his favourite bodybuilder or physique athlete - if he has one - then show him THEIR diet and training routine.

OR

Pick ANY athlete and point out that in each instance their diet is a well structured nutritional system that operates like a swiss watch.

OR (lastly)

Leave his stubborn alone and YOU change like a monster in four months and let him wonder why?

Play it safe, and if he is new to the game he doesn't have to have a bodybuilders diet, I wouldn't cut out all his favourite things as then its just asking for failure, and when one fails yourself or when it starts to look like a mountain and you really not enjoying it then it makes life difficult to be focused and driven each day. Rather stick to having a cheat once or twice a day to start with but get really good food added to his eating plan and then once the results are being seen its easier to say you have hit a plateau and going to need to be a bit more strict now..

Not everyone wants to be a body builder however nobody wants to look very out of sort, so rather do it a nice manor and work through phases.. The second phase can be some fat burners and only cheat twice a week for 4 weeks for example, then change his brains learnt behaviour where by he will have more "pleasure" after seeing "results" than he will with having some junk food.

That is the approach I'd take, not everyone is the same so people do need tough love, but everyone needs some space to breath.

Now that is what I call good advice...

admin wrote: Now that is what I call good advice...

yes, OOpump always gives the best, most logical, "sane" level headed advice. He is an absolute legend here! The nicest most humble caring guy that I have never met!

Oom Pomp ... Ja, he is quite a depro oke ... Needs comfort and motivation quite often. I suggested to him that we replace the instant noodles with a mac&tuna salad to start with. Slowly finishes the race I always say.

Slag ... Jip, I gave him some print out I made today explaining the importance of the right nutrients at the right times and how they can help you lose fat and build muscle simultaneously. He committed to reading it.

Ori ... Hahahaha ... You know how many times het ek al gewens I was the type of person who could just let stuff be?

I gave him the reading materials, not too much and not too detailed, just explaining the basics and now the ball is in his court.

Until he makes the decision to change nothing will change ...I would differ a little with the pump ...work out a diet decide on a date start and stick to it ...cut out all the junk.

I am a chocalate freak myself and if I start sampling choc its nag...like a alchoholic having a drink or two...

Make him pay for his diet! Best advice I ever got!

Pyroclasm wrote: Make him pay for his diet! Best advice I ever got!

Makes sense, come 2 think of it. More likely to follow it if it is paid for.