DNP

Are you using any AAS and if so mind sharing what and dosages?

600mg Prop
80mg Winstrol

Sounds crazy...

Not really its more of a bodybuilding myth like slin and tren.99% of the guys giving advice have never used it.its really not bad.

VonD wrote: Still alive and kicking.on 600mg at this stage day 4.down 5.7kg no cardio and calories +- 3200.

Do you reckon all of that is fat? insane results. How long do you plan on using the dnp for?

VonD wrote: Not really its more of a bodybuilding myth like slin and tren.99% of the guys giving advice have never used it.its really not bad.

scientific studies prove otherwise... the increase in free radicals vastly increases chances of cancer,there is the chances of cataracts etc etc etc.... if it was that safe you would find it on every shelf being marketed by usn, there are risks and dangers linked to all these substances, don't be naive and think they are all instant side effects, running high temperatures for long periods of time is not healthy,look at all the problems that real world diseases cause because high temperatures and low immune systems. u are worried about the effects of now,but not of long term by using dnp. i have used it,and will i use it again,no. insulin is also another case where it can be fatal and there are long term problems that can occur so don't try and tell everyone its body building myth,there is truth behind all of these things, hypoglycaemia and diabetes is a bug risk when it comes to using insulin,and the fact that you can loose limbs from diabetes,thats hard proven fact. a friend of mines father has lost his leg from being diabetic and other effects of diabetes. yes getting all hot for a couple of days is fine, but u are doing doses that u wouldn't even need to do,the studies i have read on other forums note that test subjects never went about i think it was 200mg and still showed signs of side effects. so rather not make stupid statements like this in future... my wife's uncle killed himself whilst he was using anti smoking medication which is actually still being tested and results of these tests will only be released in 2016,yet it is still on sale today,and the company actually settled a similar case out of court a couple years ago for something similar,so saying that there is no long term side effects to a drug is bullshit,especially mitochondria uncouplers like usinic acid and dnp.

Never said anything about running DNP for extended periods.Anything that you abuse will lead to problems.
IT can be used with the proper knowledge and supplement.

How many bodybuilders do you know that use slin that have diabetes?I know 23 guys ranging from 20-49.No problems there.
Not one of them ever needed a hypokit or had problems.

People put this all out ban on slin..WHY???
It can be use safely.but no what do people do they refuse to give advice and throw the people to the wolves without any knowledge thats where everything goes wrong.

Use not abuse...

i actually know 2 guys who are diabetic from insulin use, and thats for 5iu 2x a day only 3 days a week with proper reading and knowledge,you dont need insulin like everyone thinks. if you do not take precaution and not have a hypokit then u are stupid, i dont care what anyone says,u dont need to use insulin to get massive,as much as u may think or have heard otherwise,i dont use slin in my protocols and guys dont seem to have an issue growing.

the reason people dont hand out advice on insulin is because if something does go wrong then who is gonna feel like a puss because of it? are u willing to accept the blame if some one DOES(even though u may not think it will happen)go hypo or has an issue when using insulin? its a fine line to walk handing out information on using insulin. not even the doc was willing to hand out info on insulin use.

he also said stay away for dnp as have many other people.all substances can be used and be safe,heroin could be one of them,i am not willing to take that risk,but u can if u like.

use for you may be abuse for others VonD that's what u gotta realize, u may tell guys use 5iu's and they only need 2iu, u may use 10 iu and have no issue but not every human is the same, there are too many risk associated with it, so u can go throw out the advice u want, but i wont hand out advice on it solely for the reason i am not willing to take the blame if something goes wrong.

the internet has alot of knowledge out there,there are people that are willing to believe it and use it, but is it safe? not always.

end of the day u can do what you want,i wont comment on it any more,20 years down the line u get cancer or diabetes or some other thing that could be associated with chemical use such as insulin or dnp i wont say a thing, you are the master of your own destiny in the end,be it on that u have been given sound advice not to use certain chemicals and did at your own risk.

VonD, how is it going?

I stopped 3 days ago.Total loss was 7.3kg.On =- maintenance and cheating in between and no cardio.

Started my next cycle.

Congrats you survived:-)