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1684.6 calories with 217.74g protein, 80.5g fat and 10.79g carbs. I took your advice FatBoy. Does my ratio look ok?
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Because you're prepping for a show I would suggest you get hold of DJ rather than trial and error it from here. DJ has a proven track record with regards to pre-contest prep and IMHO is your best bet!!
My first cycle log
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...inner-bulk-cycle-log
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AnnieS wrote: Does anyone know how much he charge? I tried like Mike123 said and went to contacts to email Admin...but somehow I can't manage??? I can't get an email or a reply, nor does anyone get back to me if I was suppose to just click on contacts. Sorry for sounding so stupid, but I'm blond!
I received no email from you yet. You have to fill in the contact form here: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/contact-us/1-admin
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Expect a response to your email in the next 6 to 36 hours due to the massive amounts of requests we receive daily.
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Thanks though, I mailed you Admin.
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Anyway, I reduced my calories since yesterday and I burned 752 calories with my leg, delt and cardio (which only lasted 20 min although I wanted to do 45) day, all in 1hour 8 min and a heart rate max of 98, average of 84. Not too bad...and I dropped another kg. Thanks a lot for your input guys, it really helped me a lot.
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Is that u in the photo ?
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Yes, that is me 2 weeks before my first comp in 2011. Not totally there yet, but I hope for better this year.
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I gained 500g again. I am consuming 1680cal and burning 750 daily, though yesteray I only burned 700. I am then left with 1000 for my body to function on, correct?
At 78kg, 165cm tall, I had my body fat analized yesterday and as a big shock (I'm 10kg's over my normal non compitition weight, embarassing, I know to say the least) my BF is at 26.9% (ag, who am I kidding...lets make it 27. This is the worst I've been, ever!
To be realistic, I doubt that I will make it in 12 weeks with stats like this. But I want to try and are willing to push through, even if I'm not stage ready in 12 and will do another show later on. My biggest issue is that I do not know where to from here. I was thinking as from Saturday (12 weeks out) I will leave this keto (I cannot stomach the eggs, cheese, fish, etc anymore)and go on a 1500 calorie diet, adjusting it every 2 weeks , dropping 100 calories every 2cnd week untill I reach 1200. Then I'm thinking of either calorie cycling (using the same diets as the previous 6 weeks as mentioned above) or carb cycling.
What's confusing me is I don't really know if that's the right way to go. I will weel\kly add in more cardio and progress from 1h to 2 hours slowly over the 12 week period.
Training will stay heavy for upper body (my lean body mass is at 58kg, I thought I had it at about 60-61, but I lost a bit of size with my comp.) and I will do lots of high reps and plyo's for legs to lean them out further.
How does that sound?
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AnnieS wrote: Ok guys, I tried getting hold of DJ, but he's not answering the 2 emails I sent him. I just need advice, will train and diet myself. Just some guidance and your opinion perhaps.
I gained 500g again. I am consuming 1680cal and burning 750 daily, though yesteray I only burned 700. I am then left with 1000 for my body to function on, correct?
At 78kg, 165cm tall, I had my body fat analized yesterday and as a big shock (I'm 10kg's over my normal non compitition weight, embarassing, I know to say the least) my BF is at 26.9% (ag, who am I kidding...lets make it 27. This is the worst I've been, ever!
To be realistic, I doubt that I will make it in 12 weeks with stats like this. But I want to try and are willing to push through, even if I'm not stage ready in 12 and will do another show later on. My biggest issue is that I do not know where to from here. I was thinking as from Saturday (12 weeks out) I will leave this keto (I cannot stomach the eggs, cheese, fish, etc anymore)and go on a 1500 calorie diet, adjusting it every 2 weeks , dropping 100 calories every 2cnd week untill I reach 1200. Then I'm thinking of either calorie cycling (using the same diets as the previous 6 weeks as mentioned above) or carb cycling.
What's confusing me is I don't really know if that's the right way to go. I will weel\kly add in more cardio and progress from 1h to 2 hours slowly over the 12 week period.
Training will stay heavy for upper body (my lean body mass is at 58kg, I thought I had it at about 60-61, but I lost a bit of size with my comp.) and I will do lots of high reps and plyo's for legs to lean them out further.
How does that sound?
DJ has just had an op he will be back up soon.
When last have you had a cheat meal?
Drop the cheese, drop the Whey unless its Isolate. Drop the Droe wors please that is terrible on diet. Your protein is not enough and not coming from the right sources. Nuts should only be almonds or Cashews.
Where is your Broccoli, Asparagus? No coke light does not act as a diuretic, in fact when diabetics were tested after consuming coke light their insulin levels spiked? Rather Sprite Zero, Coke Zero or water.
Switch up your diet a bit, have high fat days, then low fat days, cycle your fats, example two days High protein and veg, the next high fat and protein, then 2 days high protein and veg again. Try that before stopping Keto I guarantee you will start dropping again. Remember its not the scale but the mirror. 12 weeks out is too soon to judge now.
Also what's your cycle combination look like, dosages etc?
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I started this diet on the 29th of Dec, has dropped around 5-6kg's now, but last week I didn't loose and this week I lost and gained. I used 3 different diets (one a week) to change things up and because I get bored really quick. I'm all buff with training and cardio, but the nutrition is the most important and it's make or break for me is such short period of time.
Your advice looks great, thanks! It's also changing with the veg and fat cycle, so it will be a lot easier to stick to.
When do you suggest I have a cheat meal, and what do you think I should have. I love sweet things, but I constantly (on and off season) have sugar free everythings! I am a bit grumpy the last few days though, diet's starting to get to me.
May I do the changes and post them and will you comment on them for me? I can feel my energy is low and I'm scared of loosing muscle mass on the keto. I'm weaker with the weights...and slower with sprints...or is it all in my head?
And should I concentrate on calories and makro's when making these changes to my diet?
I really do appretiate your assistance! I'm desperate!
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2 Day High Fat:
M:1
4 full eggs
1tbspn Olive oil
20g Onion
M:2
30g Almonds
120g Chicken Breast
M:3
120g Lean Beef Mince
1Tbspn Coconut Oil
M:4
Chicken Breast
1 Tbspn Olive Oil
80g Asparagus
M:5
1 Can Tuna
2 Tbspns Mayo (I'm taking a chance here, the tuna is very dry!)
20g Onion
M:6
1 Tblsn Peanut Butter
120g Chicken Breast
2 Day High Veg day:
M:1
4 Full Eggs
80g Asparagus
M:2
80g Lean Venison Biltong
30g Cashew Nuts
M:3
80g Broccoli
120g Chicken Breast
M:4
120g Lean Beef Mince
M:5
80g Mixed Veg (Onion, mushrooms, green pepper, zuchini, broccoli and asparagus)
1 Tbspn Olive Oil
120g Chicken Breast
M:6
120g Lean Mince
50g Broccoli
Does this sound ok? And do I need to work out the calories and makro nutrients for this?
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AnnieS wrote: Koe007, does this look better? My whey is concentrate and isolate mix, so I will cut it out. A nice thing of the keto is I don't really get hungry(only before my first meal in the mornings because dinner is just a shake and flaxseed oil), and that's awsome because I've got a big appitite. My husband wants me to do bodybuilding or physique rather than figure cause he says I eat like a bodybuilder and I've got a big build. Anycase, this goes by the criteria you set out below...please advice if I'm wrong?
2 Day High Fat:
M:1
4 full eggs
1tbspn Olive oil
20g Onion
M:2
30g Almonds
120g Chicken Breast
M:3
120g Lean Beef Mince
1Tbspn Coconut Oil
M:4
Chicken Breast
1 Tbspn Olive Oil
80g Asparagus
M:5
1 Can Tuna
2 Tbspns Mayo (I'm taking a chance here, the tuna is very dry!)
20g Onion
M:6
1 Tblsn Peanut Butter
120g Chicken Breast
2 Day High Veg day:
M:1
4 Full Eggs
80g Asparagus
M:2
80g Lean Venison Biltong
30g Cashew Nuts
M:3
80g Broccoli
120g Chicken Breast
M:4
120g Lean Beef Mince
M:5
80g Mixed Veg (Onion, mushrooms, green pepper, zuchini, broccoli and asparagus)
1 Tbspn Olive Oil
120g Chicken Breast
M:6
120g Lean Mince
50g Broccoli
Does this sound ok? And do I need to work out the calories and makro nutrients for this?
Now we talking, except yes you must drop the Mayo, I hate Tuna so I sub it for Hake, its easier to get down.Also too much oil my dear drop 1 Coconut oil and 1 Olive oil. Your nuts and peanut butter will give you sufficient fats.
No nuts on High veg day.
Your cheat meal should be to replenish those stores and shock the system, as much of anything you want to eat or can eat in one sitting, eat like a pig, have 1000mg ALA just after the meal or 500mg Glucophage to ensure carbs are distributed to the right place. This you will do once a week to keep yourself motivated. Depending on your conditioning, you will drop the cheat meal 3-4 weeks out from your show. That being said, you know what it takes to win and how difficult it will be to compete at those levels naturally? Just thought id mention that, DJ has me come off gradually after my shows so there is no rebound and I always feel 100% after.
Supplements on Keto:
Fish Oil 5g
Fiber twice a day 2 tbsp
Vit C 3g a day
Lipotropic Fat Burner I like Super Cuts 3 by Universal (Less Cortisol Buildup)
Evening primrose oil 1000mg twice a day
Calcium Supplement
Whey Isolate I would def get pure Whey Isolate I use Iso Pro just 30g post workout you will need. (Your macros should still be fine considering the minimal protein in the biltong)
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PS-I agree Mike.
Thanks again!
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AnnieS wrote: Aaaaa! Your the best, thanks a lot Koe007 for that sound advice! I might consider using again...if my budget allows and I have correspondance with DJ and take up his guidance. Sounds (and by the foto of you, looks) like he knows his stuff. I am going to give this a try! I'm exited and motivated now! When will he be back? I'm going to change things up from tomorrow, and have that cheat meal.(I read the thread DJ responded on with the homemade burger, jelly sweets and frozen yoghurt for cheats) My mouth's already watering with the thought of that. Sushi I assume will also be ok? I will take those without avo to keep the fats low.
PS-I agree Mike.
Thanks again!
Only a pleasure to help a fellow competitor, I know alot now but still cant help myself to the degree a trainer does, lol, strange, but I know exactly where you coming from. Good luck. FYI as a cheat Sushi is the best. Use the green soy though its lower in sodium.
My Cheat was exactly like DJ's, check my thread Koe007 13 weeks to show or something, see what DJ did with me.
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One more question, will the glycogen not make me gain a little bit of weight when I have the cheatmeal although we only force it into the muscle and liver stores? (Am I correct here?) Why I'm asking is I want to have the cheat meal tonight and from tomorrow follow this changes you advice. I will then weigh and do measurements myself on Saturday. I've got a scale which indicates body fat and water mass, etc. (I know they aren't that accurate, but I want to use it for guidance only for it will be consistant) but are scared what the outcome will be due to the cheat. I don't want to get demotivated.
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I'll try and post foto's now. I emailed you. Do you rather want me to sent it there, or post it here?
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