Felt really flat during training today

I'm almost finished week 6 of a strict cutting diet, added clen and yohimbe, today being my 5th day at full dose (120mg & 20mg).

I dose first thing in the morning and then have my first meal about 40min later. I train after work at about 18.00.

Sides have been totally manageable with the usual clen shakes being most prominent. This is my first time taking yohimbe and I can't say I notice additional side effects over and above the clen sides.

Today being Saturday, I took the clen and yoh, ate and then hit the gym about an hour later for legs. Sides from clen were still pretty evident at the time.

Anyway, I ended up not having a good workout, sweated much more than usual and got out of breath really quickly with most lifts going down from previous weeks. For squats and straight leg deads I had to lower my weight and increase my reps to try and compensate, and at one time I felt my heart beating in my throat. Obviously I held back then and slowed things down, skipped one of my planned exercises and finished off with 30 min very light cardio, feeling very flat.

Anyone have similar experiences or can offer any advice? Did I do the right thing by scaling down, or should I have forced myself to barrel on. Maybe I should have stopped completely?

Did I perhaps not feed myself enough? (For some stupid reason I didn't include simple carbs with my breakfast. I drank my shake halfway through the session as it had dextrose in it and I felt as if I needed it).

FTR, I'm happy with my diet so far, just over 4kg lost in 6 weeks. Lifts went down first week, then back to previous level in week 2. After that some lifts increased.

Plan on carrying on till end of Nov when I have to travel overseas.

what does your diet look like? 4kgs in 6 weeks? I am down 12 kgs in 8 weeks and still getting stronger. have had 3 crap work outs in 8weeks.

how many low carb days have u had?

I think my diet is pretty good (don't we all ), I based it on info from your stickies as well as advice you've given me and others.

Here is my breakdown for the past week (can go further back if needed):

i need break down meal per meal

Monday to today. I was out of town Mon - Wed, did the best I could:


Monday, 29 Oct

M1
50g oats
35g whey

M2
250g chicken
30g almonds

M3
150g couscous salad w chicken
150g fat free yoghurt

Gym

M4
35g whey

M5
200g steak
30g brocolli
50g cauliflower
20g carrots

M6
35g whey

Had 130g game biltong throughout the day

Tues, 30 Oct

M1
2 slices brown toast
2 eggs

M2
250g chicken
40g dried fruit

M3
40g almonds


M4
150g fat free yoghurt

Gym

M5
Banana
96g droewors
35g whey

M6
150g fish
30g broccoli
10g cauliflower

M7
250g cottage cheese
35g whey

Wednesday, 31 Oct

M1
2 slices brown toast
2 eggs
35g whey

M2
250g chicken
2 small bananas

M3
230g prawn sushi salad

M4
40g halaal biltong
20g almonds
PVM energy bar

No Gym, on a plane

M5
130g chicken

M6
90g cottage cheese
35g whey

Thurs, 1 Nov

M1
55g oats
35g whey

M2
90g chicken
80g low GI seeded loaf

M3
25g almonds

M4
80g low GI seeded loaf
100g baked beans

Gym

M5
35g whey
50g dextrose
2 egg whites
50g potato

M6
100g green beans
200g venison steak

M7
2 egg whites
80g cottage cheese
35g whey
10g almonds

Fri, 2 November

M1
55g oats
35g whey

M2
80g venison steak
50g green beans
50g brown rice

M3
25g almonds
100g tuna
1 Tbs olive oil

M4
60g oats
25g raisins
1 Tbs honey
35g whey

Gym

M5
35g whey
40g dextrose
125ml 2% milk
60g potato

M7
190g venison steak
6 egg whites

M8
15g almonds
Fat free instant pudding (sort of cheat meal)
300ml 2% milk
50g whey

Saturday, 3 Nov

M1
80g low GI seeded loaf
2 eggs
30g oats
35g whey

Gym

M2
35g whey
40g dextrose

M3
140g fish
1 banana

M4
40g almonds

M5
4 egg whites
35g whey

M6
250g chicken
65g green beans

M7
80g cottage cheese
45g whey

DJ wrote: what does your diet look like? 4kgs in 6 weeks? I am down 12 kgs in 8 weeks and still getting stronger. have had 3 crap work outs in 8weeks.

You're on a DJ diet - unfortunately I am not.

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you need to start eating the same thing every day, no breads,no ready made meals plain simple food. no energy bars and all that other shit. 5 meals a day 7 on work out days, 30mins of cardio every day, your diet is all over the show as you are not having prepared meals and having convenient "health" food

DJ wrote: you need to start eating the same thing every day, no breads,no ready made meals plain simple food. no energy bars and all that other shit. 5 meals a day 7 on work out days, 30mins of cardio every day, your diet is all over the show as you are not having prepared meals and having convenient "health" food

As I said, I was out of town for work Monday to Wednesday, my diet is usually much more structured and better planned but due to not having a kitchen I had to make do as best I could.

I posted those exact meals as it might have been relevant to the events on Saturday?

I am doing cardio everyday.

Even though I had to hold back a bit during yesterdays gym session the DOMS is pretty intense today.

Thanks for your input DJ.

Had another bad session this evening, felt extremely tired and slightly nauseous. Had to cut my cardio session down by 10min as well.

Either I'm burning out or I'm getting sick. :S

Sounds like a bad mindset to me

Not sure about that. Training is the highlight of my day and I've made some great progress over the last few months, so my motivation levels are pretty right now (although having a shitty workout doesn't help).

what do you eat before your workout?

iMan wrote: what do you eat before your workout?

Either 2 slices (80g) whole grain brown bread + 100g baked beans, or 60g oats + 25g raisins + 0.5 Tbs honey + 35g whey.

I've dropped the bread and beans now (on DJ's advice).

In any event, seems I have a mild cold though, woke up this morning sneezing with a snotty nose, mild headache etc.

I really don't want to skip any sessions, will see how I feel later today.