Cutting cycle after bulking cycle?

Im soon going on my first cycle in about a month or three. It will be test cypionate at 500mg weekly,oral frontload and letrozole as AI. Cycle length will be 10 weeks. So now i was wondering, i have to wait 5 weeks before pct right, could i go on a ketogenic diet at high calories, which should allow me to drop fat whilst sparing muscle before pct?
I will use glucose disposal agents to reach ketosis faster and only be on zero carbs for 5 days, followed by two days carb up consisting of low-gi carbs except post workout.

I want to bridge for 6 weeks.
With superdrol for 3 weeks @40mg ED, then 3 week winstrol @50mg ED. Clenbuterol for 2 weeks followed by ECA for 2 weeks then another 2 weeks clen. Proviron ran throughout the 6 week period.In this period i want to add in cardio as well.

I want to bulk up with my cycle for 10 weeks then end really lean and ripped. Is this too much to ask? Will i lose muscle mass if i go from bulk to cut so suddenly?

Supplements are going to be:
Insulin potentiators,DHEA,Vit C and E,CLA,GABA,Glutamine,Creatine,BCAA's,Multivitamin and ZMA+DAA when pct starts.

Am i overdoing this? It sure feels like it but i want to make the most of this and I dont want to shrink post cycle, another reason why im lengthening the bridge period - The goal here is to make lean gains and drop any water from the cyp. I was also thinking of upping my letro dose to dry out even more.

I realise this will be alot of stress on my system thats why I added DHEA and vitamin c for cortisol control. I also have a few other tricks to block cortisol.

Thanks alot. Feel free to crit and shout if there is any change needed.

Ketogenic at high calories isn't gonna cut fat bro,rather just adjust calories from the your last shot and add in cardio,2 day carb up is too much,you don't need that much time to carb up, 1-2 meals once a week is all u need in my experience

5 weeks is to long to wait for pct.Start 2 to 3 weeks after your last shot of cyp.
:lol: dont take my word for it though my views on pct would shock u

Also I find GDA's don't make you reach ketosis any faster, doing some HIIT cardio in the first week to deplete glycogen stores quicker and force the body into burning fat for energy will help more than GDA's.

Also do not waste your time with superdrol,rather use winstrol for the 6 weeks,I find that superdrol is too harsh on the system,especially the kidneys,my feet were bruised from kidney strain from superdrol,piss turned the color of mud too.

quint wrote: 5 weeks is to long to wait for pct.Start 2 to 3 weeks after your last shot of cyp.
:lol: dont take my word for it though my views on pct would shock u

Trust me,I don't think any one will take your word for it cos u are slightly off bro, you have to take the half life of the ester you are using and multiply that by 3 that is how many days u need to wait before pct, seeing that cyprionate has a 12 day half life u need to wait 36 days after last injection to start pct. If you inject 500mg,12 days later thee dosage in the system is down to 250mg,12 days later 125mg,12 days later 62.5mg which is perfect to start pct, if the dosage of anabolics in the system is higher than 100mg at start of pct your pct will fail.

ok then u never to old to learn i guess.always used to be 12 to 18 days though.now back to the bulls

Okay cool great info thanks dj! What do you think will spare the most muscle, keto vs isocaloric by dan duchaine? Asuming i take anabolics?

Also, would masteron be a bit too advanced for then bridge? What do you think of var as a bridge?

Bud stick to something simple for your cycle,don't need masteron as u will need to wait and additional 2 weeks post injection to start pct. Dan duchaine was a keto man as he wrote body opus, u should just keep carbs in the diet in that 6 weeks,drop calories a bit and increase cardio, u don't need to go ketogenic depending on your bulking diet...if you drop 500-600 calories from carbs and fats u will drop fat.

The reason why I say keep a balanced plan of nutrition is because it is still possible to grow muscle in those 6 weeks with carbs still in the diet,the minute u drop carbs u minimize muscle building potential.

Yeah i get you bro, but wont 500 cals deficit eat muscle mass? What "bridge" cycle do you recommend for a first cycle to get really nice and lean.?

Not at all bro,500 calories is enough to burn 1/2kg of fat without even doing cardio. Just use proviron and winstrol bud... That's perfect for your bridge.

Cool bro i will then go for that but ill be adding in clen as it is anti-catabolic and it actually helps to transport creatine.

Thanks for the help dj.

Don't worry about the creatine transport of clenbuterol,rather worry about the fat burning properties of it,and the synergism between clenbuterol and yohimbine hcl for the fat burning...

The main reason is the fat burning but im pretty lean year-round at say 7-9% which i judge visually. So im more concerned about anti-catabolics with fat burning effects whilst getting super lean. Therefor i incorporate lots of synergystic things into my regime. I try to keep these factors in mind: Anabolism,anti-catabolism,cortisol,insulin and of course fat burning.

Thanks for all the help man appreciate it.

Cool but don't over think it otherwise u start spending shit loads of money on things you wouldn't need,such as GDA's,if you are that lean all year round you have 0 issue with insulin sensitivity so I don't think u need to spend money on making your self more sensetive to insulin already, if you are training 4 days a week with plenty of sleep and moderate cardio with good quality calories then you won't have an issue with cortisol beeing too high,therfore less catabolism, its when you start pushing the limits with not enough rest between training session and not enough sleep and calories u start to push cortisol levels through the roof. Just remember the most anabolic thing in the world is food and rest,with out those 2 things you will never grow good quality muscle, sleeping 8 hours a day with a nap if possible and training a 4 day split a week is more than perfect to grow nicely,I see it often when guys start doing 5 days a week and then throwing in tons of cardio with starving themselves,they don't grow,they don't burn fat and they stagnate in their progress, a lot of the time sticking to the basics is what's needed,its good to see u researching but if u stick to the hard and fast rules of quality food,quality rest and quality testosterone combined with quality training sessions u are going to grow and grow quality muscle. Keep it simple simon is a good thing to live by.

Thanks dj thats awesome advice. I guess ill be doing winstrol,proviron,clen cycled with eca,2 weeks each. Where do you suggest i word in yohimbine? With the clen or the eca?

I would suggest either use an eca for 6 weeks or use clen and yohimbine for 6 weeks with ketofin/betasleep to keep receptors fresh, there is a synergy between clen and yohimbine that works like a charm,should help quite a bit in that time if your diet is spot on.

I didnt even think of that bro, since the ketotifen is legal could you tell me the price?
I guess thats the best option bro.

Its a s2 med,I don't know off hand,u will need to go to the pharmacy to check, u will need 15mls right before bed every night. Early in the day and u become hungry.

Okay will do.

Hey there gorilla

You should be coming up on the end of your bulking soon.
Was wondering about the bridge you doing .winstol,proviron,clen&yohimbe .

I just want to know your dosages and times in that 6week bridge before your pct ?