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01 Mar 2012 22:55 #95354 by JSG
Hello Guys, I've read through the newbie thread so "hopefully" I won't waste your Time and if I do I apologise before hand and will love the constructive criticism lol.

Ok so I've decided to run a 8 week course . Comprised of tren inject, anavar and proviron and I'd like to hear your opinions...

Tren 40mgs tuesdays and thursdays For 6 weeks
Anavar 50mgs starting week 3 ending week 7 .
Proviron 50mgs starting week 4 ending week 8.

I'd like to know how my dosages are and if the weeks are right.
I realise that proviron isn't the best pct but from what I have read it seems that because proviron helps prevent aromatising it would be good in terms of this cycle because tren nor anavar aromatise ( what I mean is that it is much less compared to other roids)
This isn't my first cycle , I've run dbol, superdrol with proviron, and epol before .
This is my first injectable cycle and I would like to get it right!!

I weigh 68kg , body fat is about 7.2 percent. I'm skinny as a RAKE and this cycle will hopefully BUlk me up and give me muscle hardness, definition and not a lot of water rention. Thanks Boys and sorry if I wasted your time.

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01 Mar 2012 23:09 #95355 by SLEON
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Hey bro , ok first of all you should stay away from tren for now , proviron shouldnt be used as a pct , tren needs to be run with test . Rather go for 600mg test e or 500mg test cyp per week frontloaded with dbol . Tren is a harsh compound . get your diet sorted out aswell because no amount of gear will help if your diet is not right

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01 Mar 2012 23:10 #95356 by Kkkyle
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Dude leave the tren alooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooone, especially for your first few injectible cycles.

Rather do the beginners sample cycle here and if you like you could extend it, its much better than what you would like to do, but in my opinion you probably are not eating enough.

post up your diet so we can see, meal for meal

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01 Mar 2012 23:16 #95357 by JSG
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Thanks dude I actually started writing a reply as I saw your post, I realise I need to have A proper and solid Diet ,I understand I need to eat exactly right etc and I'm seeing a dietician so I'm gonna get a very solid eating plan , perhaps speak to DJ if he's got time ? , so test is a Must.. Hmm ok that kinda puts me out of place, so I run test along side my tren , anavar stays but in addition to proviron I use clomid or nolva?
thanks SLEON

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01 Mar 2012 23:17 - 01 Mar 2012 23:19 #95358 by Kkkyle
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bud, no tren, none, not yet.

and rather get in contact with DJ than go to a crappy dietitian, he does a way better job

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01 Mar 2012 23:20 #95359 by JSG
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ahhhh kyle But tren Sounds so amazing !!! Haha ok thanks dude ill give that cycle a look. Ya as I said ill post up my diet so u can see:) ... I am one of the hardest hard gainers on earth. I once ate a megamac with 8 extra pattys , extra large chips and was still peckish afterwards !!! ( I knw the mcds isn't proper food but my point is IM never gonna gain weight naturally! Haha)

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01 Mar 2012 23:30 - 01 Mar 2012 23:31 #95360 by Kkkyle
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Bud I started training at 56-57kgs i know all about "hardgaining", I'm now 78kgs I also used to think i ate alot, if i look at my diet now compared to a year ago when i was also complaining of been a hardgainer i want to kick myself, I have only ran one cycle of testosterone only, like the one from the sample section and it was amazing. Get the diet sorted then look at the juice, the reason why i also stay off the tren for now, besides the fact that its a very harsh drug, is that say now after 5 or 6 cycles your body stops responding to test alone,then you still have options available to add in, but if you climb on to deca and tren and all those harsh drugs in your first couple of cycles, what are you going to change up or add in when your gains really slow down.

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01 Mar 2012 23:39 #95361 by JSG
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ok dude ill take your advice! Get diet working, use that sample cycle, how much of those gains will I keep though, I wanna get power gains that Stay! I tried dbol and found I got angry! Got huge stretch marks and was Constantly calling my chick to bed:P haha .

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01 Mar 2012 23:59 #95362 by Kkkyle
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I gained about 8kgs, still have 90% of the power, I ran the cycle for 15weeks and added in winstrol to bridge to the PCT, your gains are all in relation to your diet and training, I could of probably gained maybe 10 or more kgs, but alas we dont live in a perfect world and my training and diet were not perfect, and is still not anywhere near perfect, but when I did go on cycle I was gaining weight naturally so my diet wasn't to bad. Dbols have nothing on the sex drive you will get from 500mg test a week, its insane haha.

If you would like to get hold of DJ for a diet go to the contact us page and email admin and ask for DJ's details

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02 Mar 2012 11:06 #95408 by JSG
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Hey dude wat do you mean by bridge? Do I take it just before starting pct? Cause ill add in anavar instead of winstrol. Maybe run a 8 to 10 week course,

Test e 600mgs a week(1 injection monday & 1 injection thursday) for 8 weeks
Dbol 40mgs Every day week 3 to 9
Proviron 25mg every day week 6 to 10
Anavar 60mg every day week 7 to 11
Clomid 50 mg everyday week 12 to week 16.

Does this sound ok or am I missing the point of a proper course?

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02 Mar 2012 11:13 - 02 Mar 2012 11:16 #95409 by Juice
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JSG wrote: Hey dude wat do you mean by bridge? Do I take it just before starting pct? Cause ill add in anavar instead of winstrol. Maybe run a 8 to 10 week course,

Test e 600mgs a week(1 injection monday & 1 injection thursday) for 8 weeks
Dbol 40mgs Every day week 3 to 9
Proviron 25mg every day week 6 to 10
Anavar 60mg every day week 7 to 11
Clomid 50 mg everyday week 12 to week 16.

Does this sound ok or am I missing the point of a proper course?


Dbol should be run a max of 4 weeks and the whole point of dbol in a cycle is to kickstart it so you must run it from the beginning. Your pct must also include Nolvadex, read the pct article on this site. Test should also be run for 10 weeks.
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02 Mar 2012 11:18 - 02 Mar 2012 11:21 #95410 by Juice
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I say don't worry about a bridge and keep it simple as this is your first proper cycle.

1. Dbol: 40-50mg/day for 3-4 weeks
Test Cyp/E: 500-600mg/week for 10-12 weeks

2. Waiting Period

3. PCT 1/2
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/info...9-post-cycle-therapy
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02 Mar 2012 12:11 - 02 Mar 2012 12:37 #95416 by JSG
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Dbol 40mgs/a day week 1 - 4
Test E 600mgs/a week , week 1 - 10
Proviron 25mgs/a day week 5 to 9
Anavar 60mgs/a day week 9 to 13

4 weeks after last test E shot begin pct

Clomid 100mgs/a day 50 mg morning , 50 mg afternoon week 14 for 7 full days.
Nolvadex 20mgs/a day week 14 to week 18.
How does this Look:)?
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02 Mar 2012 12:17 #95419 by gab
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JSG wrote: Dbol 40mgs/a day week 1 - 4
Test E 600mgs/a week , week 1 - 10
Proviron 25mgs/a day week 5 to 9
Anavar 60mgs/a day week 9 to 13

4 weeks after last test E shot begin pct

Clomid 50mgs/a day week 14 for 7 full days.
Nolvadex 20mgs/a day week 14 to week 18.
How does this Look:)?


clomid must be at 100mg a day split into two 50mg morning 50mg afternoon

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02 Mar 2012 12:39 #95423 by JSG
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Ok edited it:) , so that looks like a good cycle?
Providing I Get a solid diet

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02 Mar 2012 12:48 - 02 Mar 2012 12:52 #95425 by gab
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JSG wrote: Ok edited it:) , so that looks like a good cycle?
Providing I Get a solid diet


only use the nolvadex after clomid. so from week 16.

also i will move te proviron to week 11

dbol1-4
test e1-10
prov 11-14
anvar11-14
clomid15
nolva16-20

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02 Mar 2012 13:04 - 02 Mar 2012 13:10 #95426 by gab
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how did you get to 25mg proviron?
lp proviron has 20mg caps. 50 off.
so run it at 40mg for 25 days
do the same with the anavar
drop that test-e to 300mg as you are very small.

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02 Mar 2012 13:08 #95428 by gab
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how old are you btw.

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02 Mar 2012 13:19 #95429 by CHAPEL
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why is that anavar in there gab..?

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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02 Mar 2012 13:26 #95431 by gab
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he said he wanted to bridge with anavar instead of winny.

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02 Mar 2012 13:31 - 02 Mar 2012 13:32 #95434 by CHAPEL
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ya but you have it down for 3 weeks.. gonna do fok all :P..

JSG just run winny in the bridge from week 10 or start var at week 8 and run till pct..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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02 Mar 2012 13:35 #95435 by JSG
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Sorry 20mg not 25, I'm 20 . I'm gonna get the brand names and stuff so I can ask if the products are legit. Will 300mgs be as effective?I thought the standard was 500mgs :)?

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02 Mar 2012 14:03 #95443 by JSG
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So Dbol 40ng 1-4
Test E 350mg 1-10
Anavar 60 mg 8-14
Proviron 40 mg 11-14
Clomid 100mg 15-16
Nolva 20mg 16 - 20
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02 Mar 2012 16:07 #95468 by Kkkyle
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stick to 500mg cyp or 600mg test E, sorry gab don't wanna undermine what you are saying but I don't see the point in dropping it that low.

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02 Mar 2012 16:12 #95469 by Eidolon
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Kkkyle wrote: stick to 500mg cyp or 600mg test E, sorry gab don't wanna undermine what you are saying but I don't see the point in dropping it that low.


Agreed. I sometimes get the impression gab doesn't know what he's talking about.

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