first cycle for 2012 progress log

I found after the 4 week of npp it really started to kick in nicely , and i absolutelly loved it , and i will def do npp again , you gonna love it bro !!!

SLEON wrote: I found after the 4 week of npp it really started to kick in nicely , and i absolutelly loved it , and i will def do npp again , you gonna love it bro !!!

i cant wait bru! every1 who has cycled it says the same thing! very excited. that works out perfect as the dbol stops after week 4.. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

LOL i can imagine bud , but ja like i said i started feeling it at about week 4 , maybe you will feel it sooner who knows

Poisoned pulse are you from amanzimtoti by any chance?

DJ wrote: NPP has a 4.5day half life so 2x a week is fine. So all u doubters...screw u haha

Most articles on NPP, including the one on this site, has its half-life at 3 days.

@kkkyle, haha i am bru, see anything familiar in the pics? :whistle:

haha.. tattoos.. nice identity cards..

haha well the one picture of you at toti beach, and then the tattoos, Im not from toti myself but I met you these past holidays through my cousin and two certain ladies that stayed at your place

Kkkyle wrote: haha well the one picture of you at toti beach, and then the tattoos, Im not from toti myself but I met you these past holidays through my cousin and two certain ladies that stayed at your place

My my my.... Haha fancy meeting you on here bud;) ... Def a small world! But whaaaaaaaad uuuup :lol: haha you where even sitting in my flat on numerous occasions if I'm not mistaken haha, does a chuck norris mean anything to you whahahaha

Kkkyle wrote: Poisoned pulse are you from amanzimtoti by any chance?

Daars ni voute nie, in Amanzimtoti ni. Haha always think of that song when I hear Amanzimtoti

PoisonedPulse wrote: i have run deca before, without any problems like that, and ran it like a total dooosh, poor pct and all that, now as i believe npp is not as harsh compared to deca (we will wait and see). if it is ill organise something for it, cabaser or so. but ill consult the seniors for advice, to be honest i dont think its quite kicked in yet, been on course for 6 days only, got a huge pump tonight, and strength is noticibly up, but im tending to think its the dbol at the moment, but as for pinning, with the test en shots are smooth and painless, im impressed so far, so things can only get better, iv heard tremendesly good things about npp so looking forward to things when it starts working (not sure how long it takes tho) ..as for tren, havnt tried it yet, wanna get a few decent cycles done first, have u tried either? ill def keep you updated on the gains tho

Havent done tren or deca or npp. But tren and deca are both 19-nors, so there are those sides, but i feel like rather taking tren ace than npp? Any thoughts?

gorilla wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote: i have run deca before, without any problems like that, and ran it like a total dooosh, poor pct and all that, now as i believe npp is not as harsh compared to deca (we will wait and see). if it is ill organise something for it, cabaser or so. but ill consult the seniors for advice, to be honest i dont think its quite kicked in yet, been on course for 6 days only, got a huge pump tonight, and strength is noticibly up, but im tending to think its the dbol at the moment, but as for pinning, with the test en shots are smooth and painless, im impressed so far, so things can only get better, iv heard tremendesly good things about npp so looking forward to things when it starts working (not sure how long it takes tho) ..as for tren, havnt tried it yet, wanna get a few decent cycles done first, have u tried either? ill def keep you updated on the gains tho

Havent done tren or deca or npp. But tren and deca are both 19-nors, so there are those sides, but i feel like rather taking tren ace than npp? Any thoughts?

well from what iv heard about both responses are amazing! esp the tren, but at the same time, amazing gains come with a high price too as what iv read and seen on the forum tren is my no means a bigginers drug and sides are high.. and i only have 2 previous cycles before this (test and equi, test and deca to put it short) where i messed up so i wouldnt even like to count them... this is the first structured cycle, full pct etc. in my opinion.. you should try npp first, less harsh of the two IMO, then maybe then followed by a cycle with something else, equi or so on.. then tren when u have a good cycle history, thats my take on it tho? might be wrong.. i would definately looove to try tren, maybe next year, or my cycle at year end,.. ur take?

PoisonedPulse wrote: in my opinion.. you should try npp first, less harsh of the two IMO

What's your reasoning behind saying NPP is less 'harsh' than deca?

PoisonedPulse wrote:

Kkkyle wrote: haha well the one picture of you at toti beach, and then the tattoos, Im not from toti myself but I met you these past holidays through my cousin and two certain ladies that stayed at your place

My my my.... Haha fancy meeting you on here bud;) ... Def a small world! But whaaaaaaaad uuuup :lol: haha you where even sitting in my flat on numerous occasions if I'm not mistaken haha, does a chuck norris mean anything to you whahahaha

Haha yes a chuck norris and a taxi in durban are all very familiar to me, tho from when you saw me to now I picked up about 3 or 4 more kgs

as you posted on my other thread, the winstrol bridge is awesome but quite harsh on the kidneys i wont lie, so iv taken a week off of it will start winni again monday, since I only start PCT 29th march,long bridge period is the only problem with supertest I guess.

Hope all goes well with your cycle and that you have amazing gains.

I haven't even done one injectable cycle, starting in about a month or two, but can never have enough research ey?? Im going to do some test only with oral frontload and bridge to pct. Then looking to do 14-16 weeks EQ and test.

@juice: I really dont have any reason to say this but almost all first time deca users go for NPP, think its because it clears your system faster so if you experience evil sides its not too late to stop. Your thoughts on tren ace vs NPP ?

gorilla wrote: @juice: I really dont have any reason to say this but almost all first time deca users go for NPP, think its because it clears your system faster so if you experience evil sides its not too late to stop. Your thoughts on tren ace vs NPP ?

Tren is a harsh compound. It depends on your goals, cutting go for tren, bulking go for npp obviously each stacked with test.

Juice wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote: in my opinion.. you should try npp first, less harsh of the two IMO

What's your reasoning behind saying NPP is less 'harsh' than deca?

sorry bud i meant between the npp and tren ace, but i still say its better then deca (the npp) as its quick in, and quick out if the sides get too bad, works quicker, less water retension etc.

Kkkyle wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote:

Kkkyle wrote: haha well the one picture of you at toti beach, and then the tattoos, Im not from toti myself but I met you these past holidays through my cousin and two certain ladies that stayed at your place

My my my.... Haha fancy meeting you on here bud;) ... Def a small world! But whaaaaaaaad uuuup :lol: haha you where even sitting in my flat on numerous occasions if I'm not mistaken haha, does a chuck norris mean anything to you whahahaha

Haha yes a chuck norris and a taxi in durban are all very familiar to me, tho from when you saw me to now I picked up about 3 or 4 more kgs

as you posted on my other thread, the winstrol bridge is awesome but quite harsh on the kidneys i wont lie, so iv taken a week off of it will start winni again monday, since I only start PCT 29th march,long bridge period is the only problem with supertest I guess.

Hope all goes well with your cycle and that you have amazing gains.

shot bud! i hope so too, my strength is shooting through the roof im loving it so far, about to have pin 3 so im officially one week down and im keen to try the winny bridge too, never done a bridge and i like the hard dry look too, but as for the weight gain u must be looking good now bru? u didnt look bad at all in dec! must all come down soon, talk about more skyrim hahahahah :whistle:

gorilla wrote: I haven't even done one injectable cycle, starting in about a month or two, but can never have enough research ey?? Im going to do some test only with oral frontload and bridge to pct. Then looking to do 14-16 weeks EQ and test.

@juice: I really dont have any reason to say this but almost all first time deca users go for NPP, think its because it clears your system faster so if you experience evil sides its not too late to stop. Your thoughts on tren ace vs NPP ?

bud i wish i had the knowlegde i do now, compared to my first 2 cycles, i made that mistake of listening to the big guy at gym.. and i was a fool! so research and then do it again! good luck for ur up and coming cycle! sounds perfect and you should explode.. will keep an eye out for it

@juice: I always want to bulk, but lean as possible was thinking for a 3rd cycle some test e with tren bridge with masteron and proviron, how would you compare those gains with the tren swapped for deca.

gorilla wrote: @juice: I always want to bulk, but lean as possible was thinking for a 3rd cycle some test e with tren bridge with masteron and proviron, how would you compare those gains with the tren swapped for deca.

Tren for a 3rd cycle seems to early. Tren needs to be run with test so you can't really bridge with tren. I would go for the npp.

Tren ace and NPP are both 19-nors? Why npp rather than tren? And what I meant was tren and test. Bridge with masteron and proviron but 4 weeks masteron and proviron, then winstrol and proviron for another 2 weeks, then pct. So its just 2 weeks without any test as the 4 weeks masteron will ride out the ester.

gorilla wrote: Tren ace and NPP are both 19-nors? Why npp rather than tren? And what I meant was tren and test. Bridge with masteron and proviron but 4 weeks masteron and proviron, then winstrol and proviron for another 2 weeks, then pct. So its just 2 weeks without any test as the 4 weeks masteron will ride out the ester.

they might both be 19 nor's, but i really think the 2 cant be compared? (seniors can correct me if im wrong), and i still believe the sides of tren are far superior to the npp, i would personally only run tren when i have a decent cycle history (5+ structured cycles) and a guru in the kitchen to make the most benifit of the cycle. the effects sound amazing but Its also the lack of quality sleep that you get from tren (so iv heard and researched insomnia kills you), and the loss of appitite, that IMO noticeably reduces the size gains that you might expect from tren unless your diet is down to the T and you force feed, or add t3 etc.

Besides, i think a cycle should be an enjoyable experience?. Why not use the NPP for lean bulking and then save the tren for cutting later on in the year when you won't have to fight your stomach all day, every day??

Makes sense what your saying...Also read some other post saying that you cant run a marathon like a 100m dash, if i do tren-which i wont, then what am i going to run then? and then? So shot for the help bud...Looks like ill be doing some deca after all, probably 10 weeks test e 600mg,NPP 10 weeks 450mg,prop 100mg between enanthate shots and after the npp doing 2 weeks prop 150mg EOD, then winny,proviron and doctari's pct...What do you think?

sounds good bru! but then again if its your first cycle, just run a test only cycle with a front load, as you dont know if you prone to any sides yet? if you hit a first cycle with various compounds you wont know which one will be dishing the nasty sides?.. IMO run the bigginers bulking cycle, dbol and cyp/enanthate at 500/600mg pw... trust me you will explode if its ur first cycle bud and build a solid foundation! maybe second cycle, up the doses a bit, like to around 750-+ and add a bridge and up the front load dbol by 10mg ed?? if your diet is good you will always improve and make gains, third cycle run the you mentioned above, test e, npp etc. etc.. im only doing it now on the third too! if i could go back, i would of done it just like that for my first 2 cycles.. but see how you feel, and get others input good luck champ