test + deca/equi/NPP or test alone?

Just out of curiosity, what would you guys recommend for a second cycle?

Option 1
Dbol 40mg ED @ 4weeks
Test 640mg @ 15weeks
deca 350mg @ 10weeks ( I remember reading something about deca having to be run for longer that 10 weeks to be any good?)

Option 2
Dbol 40mg ED @ 4weeks
Test 640mg @ 15weeks
Equi 350mg @ 10weeks ( Not sure about equi lengths that it needs to be ran at? I like the fact that equi helps make one more hongry which may be helpful in my case.)

Option 3
Dbol 40mg ED @ 4weeks
Test 640mg @ 15weeks
NPP 300mg (split over twice a week) @ 10weeks

Option 4
Dbol 40mg ED @ 4weeks
Test 750mg @ 15weeks
Proviron 40mg ED from week 12 untill week 16
Dbol 40mg ED from week 16 untill PCT
OR
Dbol 40mg ED @ 4weeks
Test 890mg @ 15weeks :dry:
Proviron 40mg ED from week 12 untill week 16
Dbol 40mg ED from week 16 untill PCT

Now I know that i may not have gotten the best results from my first cycle, but I'm going to be making alot of changes, found someone who can really help me out with training and diet.

This is purely out of curiosity for now.

Thoughts?

Hey bud.

For a 2nd cycle i don't think you need to go boss or use to many compounds. Change the training routine this time around and diet. Last cycle u were on test cyp 500mg a week and dbols 40md ed if i remember right. So maybe look at doing 600mg Test E with a T-boll kickstart of 60mg ed with ur winny bridge to pct.

I like option 3 with the NPP.should yield great results and i dont see that it would be a bad 2nd cycle.Might just make it like 12 weeks and run the NPP 12 weeks with the test.Kicksart with Oral turinabol.I like this idea.

let me throw another one at you.

test enanthate 300mg 2x a week, with 100mg of prop to that shot for 10s weeks,then continue with the test prop for 4 weeks with winstrol for 6 weeks. then oral t to front load.

Thanks guys, I actually like the sound of DJ's cycle, I want to try save the more intense compounds for later.
So DJ just to clarify it's:

Test E 600mg a week split over two shots for 10 weeks
Test prop (this is what is confusing me, is it 100mg a week, or 100mg added to each test E shot)
Oral Tbol 60mg ED for 4 weeks
Winni at 40mg ED for 6weeks
100mg test prop per week for 4weeks from last test E shot

Am I correct?

That that is exactly what he means. Kinda making your own little "supertest" mix. Looks lekke to me....

DJ wrote: let me throw another one at you.

test enanthate 300mg 2x a week, with 100mg of prop to that shot for 10s weeks,then continue with the test prop for 4 weeks with winstrol for 6 weeks. then oral t to front load.

@dj: Why do you add in prop? It sounds really good, I might even try it but 200mg a week sounds so little? But its still 800mg in total? :huh: Sorry bro, im really confused..

The ratio or prop ml to mg ratio is higher than Test E and Cyp + Prop gets to work quicker too... Nice way to get keep bloods stable and then easy to carry on and ride out longer ester + with Winstrol for to ride out the Prop, nice cycle layout.

00pump wrote: The ratio or prop ml to mg ratio is higher than Test E and Cyp + Prop gets to work quicker too... Nice way to get keep bloods stable and then easy to carry on and ride out longer ester + with Winstrol for to ride out the Prop, nice cycle layout.

But is it correct if I say that one doesnt really have to use an oral kicker?

You don't no.. Sometimes those 'orals' further down the cycle do more wonders than at the beginning of the cycle and can break any plateau you may be at. So ye, kick of with prop for 3 or so weeks, or use SuperTest and stack Prop with it again, but the SuperTest seems to get working just after week 1.

I did supertest and prop for 12weeks last year,test kicks in fucking quickly,was a winner!! I am doing my next cycle with 100mg prop,150mg testen for the first 5weeks,then I am going to add in anapolin and 100mg primo with 150mg NPP 3x a week,I will also use igf and gh with this cycle..gonna be interesting to see what happens.

How do shoot up those compunds dj?

What do you guys think of supertest for 5 weeks with 200mg prop, should the prop be injected with the supertest or what?
And could you go over to Enanthate after the 5 weeks supertest?

DJ wrote: I did supertest and prop for 12weeks last year,test kicks in fucking quickly,was a winner!! I am doing my next cycle with 100mg prop,150mg testen for the first 5weeks,then I am going to add in anapolin and 100mg primo with 150mg NPP 3x a week,I will also use igf and gh with this cycle..gonna be interesting to see what happens.

Sounds lekka! So your doing 500mg test weekly?

To start yes,then will go up to 750mg when I add in all the other components.

That actually makes sense but could i do that with EQ ? Like run a low dose for 5 weeks and then up to regular dose? And do you think 400mg EQ weekly will do?

DJ is there any particular reason why you added oral t, or would dbols be okay?

Kkkyle wrote: DJ is there any particular reason why you added oral t, or would dbols be okay?

If your not gyno prone, I see no reason against dbol, been hearing good things about tbol though

I hear its pretty good stuff, but wow is it a pricey product!

I don't think Im to gyno prone tho, didnt have any problems on my last cycle, with super test i had a slight case of itchy nipples, but just two drops of letro every other day cleared it up, and that only started happening when i was using the super test.

If costs an issue than dbol is a no brainer, saving up for some anavar for my next cycle