Total Noob - First Cycle

Hey guys!

Awsome site, very informative.

Vital Stats: 35yrs
77kg (cold)
1.74m
+-14% bodyfat

Goal: 85kg 8-10%BF

Decided to take the plunge and start my first cycle of AAS properly this coming weekend. (will explain "properly" shortly). Using this week to continue my vigorous cardio sessions to drop as much BF as possible, hopefully to get it down to +-12%.

Week 1-9 Decaplex (Axiolabs) 300mg/week
Week 1-12 Sustaplex (Axiolabs) 325mg/week
Week 1-4/5 Oxybol (Keifei) 50mg/day or 100mg 2days on / 2days off

PCT (after research on this website) 54 days after my last sus injection:
Clomid 50mg twice daily for 7days
Nolvadex 20mg per day for 30days after Clomid.

During the past 2 weeks I have injected 150mg deca and sus 162.5g once per week just to see muscle response, a friend of mine on the same cycle had a terrible experience with the sustaplex, swelling, fever, cold sweats,etc.
For me Deca was fine just a bit sore at the injection site for the day. The sus on the other hand hurt like a mother***** in the shoulder (sus alone) for +-5days but when done in the the glute and after some research, mixed with +-1ml vit b12 and injected very very slowly. This was yesterday morn and till today no serious pain.

So what u guys think?

deca for a first cycle is a no go. its hard on the body and shut you down hard. i wouldhave just done the sust.
your pct is not in check. do pct 3 afterwards.(doctari) about the keifei dbols i think they get faked alot but if they are legit run it for 4 weeks 40-60mg a day.

I don't understand what you mean by 'see muscle response', I think you would of been better off with a test cyp/e frontload with dbol/tbol

you will only feel the injectables after a few weeks or so, so checking muscle respnce was a bit of a dof thing to do. no pun intended. you are here to ask questions and we will gladly help.

Thanks for the response Gab. I should have been more specific, by "muscle response" I actually meant what level of pain/swelling, etc. there would be to the muscle initially.

There are numerous threads on this forum explaining why testosterone only at 250-500mg max dose (I recommend less) with a 4-5 weeks kicker is the first cycle of choice. Susta plex does not need a kicker though.
Since you are very skinny you will do just fine on the 12 weeks of sustaplex at 325mg a week if you eat and train properly, and I would leave the rest of the gear for your next cycle.

I agree with Inja, stop the deca and continue pinning sust and also start pregnyl for 20 days, 1 on 1 off. Then do doctaris pct, should be good bro make sure your diet is 100%

Good luck!

Inja wrote: There are numerous threads on this forum explaining why testosterone only at 250-500mg max dose (I recommend less) with a 4-5 weeks kicker is the first cycle of choice. Susta plex does not need a kicker though.
Since you are very skinny you will do just fine on the 12 weeks of sustaplex at 325mg a week if you eat and train properly, and I would leave the rest of the gear for your next cycle.

Great idea

Ok, thanks for the advice guys. 325mg sustaplex / week it is for 12 weeks. I've also got 50 X 20mg proviron tabs, should I take this during my cycle or with my pct?

According to Doctari's pct no.3, I will need the 15x Clomid 50mg, 1x Ovidrel 250mcg, 30x Aromosin 20mg, 30x Nolvadex 20mg and take it as specified. Is this correct or a bit overkill?

Pct number 3 is a bit much.

go with number 2
clomid
nolvadex
hcg

Thanks for the reply. What about the proviron?

50 is not allot so @ 40mg its like 25 day...I would say use it during the waiting period before PCT>

My mistake the Proviron tabs are 25mg. The guy I got the gear from said to take 1 per day starting from the beginning of the 3rd week until the end of the cycle. Would this be correct to do?

25mg proviron is not much. Take it from around the middle of your cycle and keep taking it during our bridge into pct. If you take 2 per day which is better then use that during your bridge.