its my 2nd cycle

I started my 1st cycle with cyp 100.
Thats all i can get my hands on. How do you cycle that with eq
And an aramotase. How long on, how long off and how much?
I want to bulk...

You have started but you dont know how much to use or how long??? :pinch: stop using it right away!you know way too little to use anabolics.you are going to hurt yourself bro.

Ok, le rephrase. I haven't started 2nd cycle. I am still on off.
Started 1st with cyp 100. 8 weeks at 300 a week. My friend advised on how much,
And we all now what friends bring to the table is dangerous.
That's why I want to do the 2nd cycle properly... On my off I use
Animal stack. Please advise

Hi makemebig

Ok...where to start? Let's start with research. U don't know enough about gear and the various compounds of gear to be using anything at the moment. Just using what friends suggest without a basic knowledge from yourself is dangerous. So that's step 1.

Equi is a complex substance to use and not something for a "virgin" such as urself to use. Due to its long half life etc its not that plain and simple to use and takes knowledge and experience. It makes PCT more complex.

Try to avoid using the cyp 100. Its so underdosed and a waste frankly. Try getting a test with a dosage of 250mg/ml and upward dosage. 300mg/week is pretty low but for a first time user its ok. 8 weeks is also little short.

Diet diet diet!!! Get ur diet in check. If you aren't eating enough and not eating enough of the right food no amount of gear will help u at all.

I see u haven't mentioned PCT. PCT is a MUST after a cycle.

My suggestion: Drop the equi idea. Get a higher dosed test and get a oral like dbol, tbol etc to frontload with. 300-500mg/week test for 12 weeks and 30-40mg/day dbol for first 3-4 weeks. PCT clomiphene, tamofixen and HCG. Pct 4 weeks after your last test shot.

But first and foremost do a lot more homework.

Thanks for your reply.
I have done some research but thats when
it gets confusing!
Some say arimdx is best for pct with least adverse effects.
Orals are toxic to liver? Apparently thistle
Helps but brings down potency of dbol?
I was woried about gyno on cyp and thus
The low initial dosage.
I follow a diet and use high calorie shakes
3xtimes a day.
Heres my stats. I am 1.86. Weighed 84 b4 1 cycle,
Now on 90 kg. Is that good gain for 8 weeks
5 times a week gym?
16 perc body fat.
Havent even lost 1kg and i am 3 Weeks off now.
Is that a good indication that
I didnt retain allot?
My last question is, if u on a cycle does
That mean you have allot of free test?
Or do u need sups to free up more?
Thanks for all the help so far!

makemebig wrote: Thanks for your reply.
I have done some research but thats when
it gets confusing!
Some say arimdx is best for pct with least adverse effects.
Orals are toxic to liver? Apparently thistle
Helps but brings down potency of dbol?
I was woried about gyno on cyp and thus
The low initial dosage.
I follow a diet and use high calorie shakes
3xtimes a day.
Heres my stats. I am 1.86. Weighed 84 b4 1 cycle,
Now on 90 kg. Is that good gain for 8 weeks
5 times a week gym?
16 perc body fat.
Havent even lost 1kg and i am 3 Weeks off now.
Is that a good indication that
I didnt retain allot?
My last question is, if u on a cycle does
That mean you have allot of free test?
Or do u need sups to free up more?
Thanks for all the help so far!

Adex is an AI usually used during cycle, you still have to do a PCT protocol. Milk thistle does help your liver, doesn't make the dbol any less potent. I'm confused by your other questions. I'd recommend gaining allot more knowledge before you start your 2nd cycle.

Why on earth are u scared of Testosterone? Testosterone is the base for ANY cycle. 6kg Gain isn't really that much and most of that is water. And u haven't "lost" anything yet as the test is still active in ur body due to the half-life of the cyp ester. U will start to lose around week 4-5. And u WILL lose all ur gains as u have no proper pct. The weight u keep will probably be a lil fat gain. Adex IS NOT pct. Do research on pct bud. There is a pct sticky on the forum. Just do a search. Yes most orals are affect the liver, some more than others. That's why they are run for short periods of time mainly at the beginning to kickstart a cycle and near the end to bridge to pct. Essentiale is what u should use for liver support but for a basic dbol and test cycle it won't be necessary. Obviously other harmful substances like alcohol etc should be avoided.

When on gear using "natural" test boosters is pointless. To help utilize any free test proviron can be added to the cycle. But u won't have to worry about this at all at this stage.

Also ur diet, don't rely too much on high calorie shakes. Get a proper diet of whole foods. Remember its called a "supplement" as it is contributing or supplementing ur current diet. Its not a food source on its own.

Search the forum. All the info u need is posted on various threads.

AAS wrote:

makemebig wrote: Thanks for your reply.
I have done some research but thats when
it gets confusing!
Some say arimdx is best for pct with least adverse effects.
Orals are toxic to liver? Apparently thistle
Helps but brings down potency of dbol?
I was woried about gyno on cyp and thus
The low initial dosage.
I follow a diet and use high calorie shakes
3xtimes a day.
Heres my stats. I am 1.86. Weighed 84 b4 1 cycle,
Now on 90 kg. Is that good gain for 8 weeks
5 times a week gym?
16 perc body fat.
Havent even lost 1kg and i am 3 Weeks off now.
Is that a good indication that
I didnt retain allot?
My last question is, if u on a cycle does
That mean you have allot of free test?
Or do u need sups to free up more?
Thanks for all the help so far!

Adex is an AI usually used during cycle, you still have to do a PCT protocol. Milk thistle does help your liver, doesn't make the dbol any less potent. I'm confused by your other questions. I'd recommend gaining allot more knowledge before you start your 2nd cycle.

Milk thistle does have an affect on gear @AAS. DJ mentioned somewhere else on the forum.

MCJ wrote:

AAS wrote:

makemebig wrote: Thanks for your reply.
I have done some research but thats when
it gets confusing!
Some say arimdx is best for pct with least adverse effects.
Orals are toxic to liver? Apparently thistle
Helps but brings down potency of dbol?
I was woried about gyno on cyp and thus
The low initial dosage.
I follow a diet and use high calorie shakes
3xtimes a day.
Heres my stats. I am 1.86. Weighed 84 b4 1 cycle,
Now on 90 kg. Is that good gain for 8 weeks
5 times a week gym?
16 perc body fat.
Havent even lost 1kg and i am 3 Weeks off now.
Is that a good indication that
I didnt retain allot?
My last question is, if u on a cycle does
That mean you have allot of free test?
Or do u need sups to free up more?
Thanks for all the help so far!

Adex is an AI usually used during cycle, you still have to do a PCT protocol. Milk thistle does help your liver, doesn't make the dbol any less potent. I'm confused by your other questions. I'd recommend gaining allot more knowledge before you start your 2nd cycle.

Milk thistle does have an affect on gear @AAS. DJ mentioned somewhere else on the forum.

He said it hinders gains, something to do with androgen receptors if I recall correctly. Its worth noting though that Inja said that in terms of hindering gains it is barley anything.

Lazy people who think juice is the shortcut. :silly:

It might not be a shortcut.But its sure as hell a turbo booster..

VonD wrote: It might not be a shortcut.But its sure as hell a turbo booster..

I often used to think it was a shortcut or cheat, now that I've been on here and reading up on how ur diet should be, all the training u must do and the knowledge u need to run a proper cycle and pct to keep the gains I now know that it is like u say, a turbo boost BUT u got to have all ur ducks in a row before u can cycle - definately not a cheat or as easy as saying a 'shortcut'.