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I have a friend he is 20 this year.He wants to compete next year in his first show.The cycle that he has came from a guy that has good knowledge with ties to some big neames in SA BB.the guys diet is spot on he has been training for 4 years.
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weight-84
bf%11-12 (different measurements)
Height 1.78m
Week 1-10
Test cyp @ 500mg
frontload with dbol 20days @50mg
Week 11-18
Cruise on 150mg test e
winstrol @40-50mg from week 14-18
Clenbuterol to cut back on the fat he has gained.
Week 19-28
test e @ 900mg
Followed by a bridge with winstrol @ 50mg a day
Pct
Clomid
Nolvadex
Hcg
He has letro as well as adex on hand.
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VonD wrote: Hi guys hope all is well on your ends.
I have a friend he is 20 this year.He wants to compete next year in his first show.The cycle that he has came from a guy that has good knowledge with ties to some big neames in SA BB.the guys diet is spot on he has been training for 4 years.
age-20
weight-84
bf%11-12 (different measurements)
Height 1.78m
Week 1-10
Test cyp @ 500mg
frontload with dbol 20days @50mg
Week 11-18
Cruise on 150mg test e
winstrol @40-50mg from week 14-18
Clenbuterol to cut back on the fat he has gained.
Week 19-28
test e @ 900mg
Followed by a bridge with winstrol @ 50mg a day
Pct
Clomid
Nolvadex
Hcg
He has letro as well as adex on hand.
Please comment and state what you think.
Any reason why he is not starting with test prop rather?
i dont understand the logic of cruising on 150mg test e?
clen to cut back on the fat he has gained...what fat will he be gaining? unless he is upping his calories majour?
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Drop the test e in the "cruise", won't make too many, if any gains, from that dose after being on 500mg. Winstrol is anabolic enough for him not to worry about losing gains in that 8 weeks
Still not happy with this cycle, he should push his plans back a year or should've started on a normal cycle last year. Being on cycle for more than 6 months without any prior cycle experience is quite dumb as your body won't be used to being under such strain for such a long period of time and who knows how it'll react
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Deadgoat wrote: I see Jakes has been hard at work away from the forum
Drop the test e in the "cruise", won't make too many, if any gains, from that dose after being on 500mg. Winstrol is anabolic enough for him not to worry about losing gains in that 8 weeks
Still not happy with this cycle, he should push his plans back a year or should've started on a normal cycle last year. Being on cycle for more than 6 months without any prior cycle experience is quite dumb as your body won't be used to being under such strain for such a long period of time and who knows how it'll react
Lol
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Dj can you explain why?DJ wrote: i wouldnt switch from test cyp to test enanthate personally.
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Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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@dj he said he had the cyp but his supplier ran ot so he bought test e.
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Deadgoat wrote: This whole cruising/staying anabolic thing is getting out of hand, after your last test shot you aren't suddenly going to lose gains as your test levels will still be very high for the best part of 5 weeks so he's only really have to worry about 3 weeks of having low T levels. Is running a low dose of test really worth shutting down your HPTA axis further for something a bit of winny and var can take care of?
Oi boet, so you would say 125mg for the last 3weeks of the cruise? Remember it doesn't kick in immediately... If you diet hard you would defiantly lose some muscle mass...
Its only test and winni, it shouldn't shut you down too hard
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jakes wrote: Oi boet, so you would say 125mg for the last 3weeks of the cruise? Remember it doesn't kick in immediately... If you diet hard you would defiantly lose some muscle mass...
Its only test and winni, it shouldn't shut you down too hard
That's not what I said or meant. Winny/var should keep him anabolic (you'll have to starve yourself pretty good to lose muscle on these 2 as they were designed for AIDS patients) throughout that 8 weeks and help cut water and fat. The low dose test is pointless
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Bud maybe the price? What does 5winni caps daily cost compared to 125mg test weekly? Also var takes like 4 or 6 weeks to even kick in properly.
I don't see the harm in that cycle
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jakes wrote: Lol ok I won't troll, damn don't spoil my fun!
Bud maybe the price? What does 5winni caps daily cost compared to 125mg test weekly? Also var takes like 4 or 6 weeks to even kick in properly.
I don't see the harm in that cycle
Cost isn't an issue looking at this guy's current cycle and T-levels only drop to catabolic levels after 5 weeks so it doesn't matter that the var will take a while to work and he's already planning to purchase winny for the entire 8 weeks.
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This is getting too easy now
(inb4 DJ special olympics joke)
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Bro, one loses "steroid" muscle fast. Even if he only loses 1g of muscle in that week, why take the risk? 0.5ml of test is so cheap anyway....
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